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5 years ago
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Count, could you please specify what kind of nonsense I started writing?
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The Nefela table is created with love and a touch of madness, and yes, it gives only a small bonus.

It also comes with a table containing information about each day (who did what to whom, why, with disclaimers, and an analysis of the night – Nefela is the mom, after all). And this table, for example, has once again fallen apart.

and some drug-induced tea

 

I didn't add day 4 to my table; I'm still not sure if it was a block or an isolation. Maybe Yashur was both blocked and isolated?

I'm just thinking out loud here; I hope you don't mind.

even if you do, it won't make my reputation any worse.

where was the block from the Abbot? He has 2 night actions, and with two living mafia members and 3 night actions, it would be stupid not to block!

the second night action will be a check (could the mafia be afraid of a greeting from the Survivor and therefore not go to check?).

and there should be a kill from the Abbot... yes, which happens once every 3 nights...

if we assume that the mafia killed physically without evidence (from the Abbot) on the second night, then the kill will only be reversed on the 5th night (the upcoming one).

not killing is stupid.

could they have ended up on protection? or were they trying to frame someone?

or is Yashur the star of the night?

I think I'm starting to dig too deep...

 

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5 years ago
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Crabby
Drakkosha, I'm just playing Mafia on Veteran difficulty: it's already difficult, and now I also have to figure out who Rev, Lynx, and Locken are...
I see. After this game ends (which will be in about a month, right?), I'll change my nickname to Lynx. Although, I thought you should remember me. (

I don't know what to do with Humer. I'd like to at least read his typical NNV for starters.

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Nephila, what table are you talking about? I had it. But then it disappeared. Although I'm using my phone. Refreshing, nothing.
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5 years ago
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Could you please remind me again what the colors and lines mean?
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Yes, I removed my table; it doesn't give much anyway, and you're not helping me fix the errors.

I don't quite like how Cliff goes to Nebka for the second time (nights 1 and 4).

 

Is it possible, considering the number of defenses and the kill on the second night, to include less active (like those not interested in the setting) and potentially weak players in the Mafia?



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Oh, you saw it anyway :(
I didn't have time, I'm slow.
I'll go put it back, otherwise it's unfair.
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5 years ago
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There are no weak players. There is only bad luck.
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Mestear
I thought you would remember me.

How can I remember you with a new nickname?
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5 years ago
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I need to break the habit of changing my mind after clicking OK.
My table, by the way, essentially works against me...

 

Days 2 and 3 are marked in yellow because there were consequences from Charlie's actions.

That is, the role could have been affected by its own action.

 

Because of this, the precise moves made by the role (as I believe) are marked in blue.

A possible switch of actions is indicated in purple-brown (what is that color called?).

The number indicates the night.

Dark gray squares indicate the consequences of the role's actions.

Light gray indicates a move I'm not sure about.

 

Note the '3' at the intersection of Revant-N.I believe that the Abbot made the move there, as I have few ideas about where Eddie's move went (did I compare? Is there more information available? Did he go to Revant?).

 



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The number with dashes (1") is again a designation of the consequences of the role's move to the player, so that if I made a mistake in the order of actions, I don't have to redo the entire table from scratch and it's easier to observe the errors
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5 years ago
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And what does 1'' mean when I'm with Suzanne? Is there something I don't know?
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And let me state this right now: I try to be as fair as possible when editing messages, and I don't edit them later than 5 minutes after they're posted (even if I see obvious grammatical errors).

I miss the phrase "Edited at [time]" that used to be added automatically under each message. :)

 

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5 years ago
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Crabby
But damn, if Goomer turns out to be a peaceful player too, that would be incredibly lame.

Oh yeah, but you'll do it anyway, just to make the game "more fun" for everyone.

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What does 1'' mean with Suzanne? Is there something I don't know?))

First night, are you in Eddie's or the Abbot's block? All subsequent Night Actions are performed in order. You cannot perform any other Night Action because you are in a block and cannot leave.

In the first night, the action of Suzanne is reflected (at least we decided that it was her). You cannot perform it if it was indeed Suzanne who performed the action, and not a girl copying her Night Action.

 

 

 



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Therefore, with a fairly high probability, you cannot be Suzanne.

But since we don't know for sure what the lady-girl was doing, this probability is not equal to 1.

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Yeah, I get it. My table is slightly different, but it doesn't differ much in terms of usefulness.

Nefela

you can't perform any subsequent night actions in order, because you are in a block and don't go anywhere


That's all great, but unsuccessful blocks are also displayed in the newspaper.

As a result, if we have two blocking night actions, a player with an 86.5% probability cannot be Eddie (he is the second to block), but there is also the Ghost of the Girl, who can also block.



Goomer, so tell us what you think about the game, who the mafia is, and who we should execute.

Maybe you'll explain everything so well that we decide to kick someone else.
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In the end, if we have two blocking non-discoverable cards, the player has an 86.5% chance of not being Eddie (they are the second to block), but there's also the Ghost of a Girl, which can also block.

But then, with a probability of 86.5% (I didn't calculate it, I just like the number), three blocks will be displayed in the newspaper!
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Based on my assessment at the start of the night, my list of potential Mafia players includes Revan, Neiko, Crabbi, Graf, Lynx, and, surprisingly (night 4), Yashur, and possibly Gumer (see below).

I can definitely believe that Yashur, Lynx, or Nebo could be a serial killer.

As for the Mafia players, I suspect Crabbi, Makka, and Gumer (though maybe not?).

 

Nefela is a very strange player; she's all over the place. She's vague, incoherent, spouts nonsense, and seems to be roleplaying, but then she tries to redeem herself by presenting some kind of charts to the town.

Yashur asked a lot of questions that seemed very pointed, the kind of questions that Mafia players typically ask in the Mafia chat. Either he was genuinely curious, or he annoyed the Moderator so much that he got kicked out of the chat and could only ask his questions here, and he couldn't find the private messages. Otherwise, in my opinion, he's just roleplaying like he did last time, but I see it happening more often in this thread. The Newspaper 4, with the block/isolation and separate missed turns, gives him every chance.

I liked how Graf went after Fragment yesterday. He gave me a perfectly reasonable explanation for why he should vote for him. I probably like him in general. But the question is, is his analysis really that good, or is he just tired of the nonsense Fragment was saying?

I like Neiko; I just do. He provides good analysis that I often agree with, has good logic, and writes infrequently but to the point.

Crabbi seems to be playing, and it seems similar to his previous game. He seems to be getting into it, and based on the chart, it's 50/50, but I want to believe in him.

Lynx seems more like a town member to me; in the previous game, she played differently, in my opinion. Basically, it's also 50/50, but I want to hope that she's a good person.

I wrote about Revan above; there's a very exonerating block on him, and if this isn't just a coincidence (twice, twice?), then I even have a specific role for him. But then, in Newspaper 4, he was blocked (twice in a row, and all the Mafia players? Are they also blocked twice, twice?).

Nebo is Nebo. I don't understand if he's a town member or not. Someone believes him; maybe he has more information. Just in case, I'll put him on my negative list...

Gumer... Well, Gumer had a very similar interesting move in the last game, just like I'm seeing now in Newspapers 1 and 4. Maybe it's not as simple as it seems?

Makka. Where is he in the thread? There's no information, he's not in the thread, it's unclear what he's doing. Could he be one of those who attacks the town with half of the protected players using physical attacks?

Can a serial killer, according to the established tradition, be HELPFUL and help the town during the day?

 

And for some reason, I have more faith in people than in town roles...

 

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In the end, if we have two blocking roles, the player has an 86.5% chance of not being Eddie (he's the second one to block), but there's also the Ghost of a Girl, who can also block.
But then, with a probability of 86.5% (I didn't calculate it; I just like the number), we'll see three blocks in the newspaper!



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Makka. Where is he in the thread? There's no information, he's not in the thread, it's unclear what he's doing. Could he be one of those who attacks the town with half of the protected players using physical attacks?

I'm probably just writing nonsense here.

macca
Yashur was isolated, not blocked, because no matter how hard he tried, he couldn't get through to Crestfallen Ariake. Nebo was being watched, and it looks a lot like a newspaper entry with Nefela, and that's all I see in this newspaper, hmm, it's not very informative.

That's a very interesting interpretation of the newspaper.

But I would say that Revan was isolated; people tried to get through to him, but he didn't respond. Yashur clearly wasn't doing anything, but was there really an isolation?

Although, if we assume that, theoretically, Revan could have locked himself in a room and was depressed there, and Yashur was knocking on the door...

I don't agree that Nebo was being watched. People were just talking to him and supporting him. Suzanna, based on the role description, would be more likely to be intimidating.

 

What do you think?

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