Posts from Мафия 108. Haunted asylum

Or with a maniac.
He used to be quite helpful to us.

- having a woman in that position would be a good thing, at least because the newspapers would become more reliable in terms of information.

Haha, but what if?

I personally would like to wait for Morning's response and then vote.

We have time, and my father isn't around to beat me up, so, in principle, we can spend a day on it.

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- it would be great if at least newspapers became more reliable in terms of information.

For information! (c) :)

Or with a maniac.
He was often (used to be) helpful to us.

Yeah. And now it seems like he's not helpful anymore.

If it turns out that even a winning maniac with mages is "helpful," then I'll be completely disappointed in everything...

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I personally would like to wait for Morning's answer, and then vote.

In such cases, they usually shout, "Guys, well... it's... I didn't really think about it, I just answered what came to mind"...:D

But, of course, we need to listen. I'm also curious how he's going to get out of this. x)

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Stop... I think I'm being slow...

And the maniac, on the other hand, only wins solo (or with a girl), and the mafia isn't needed by him, just as it isn't needed by the town. And the girl isn't a maniac; she's just causing chaos. P.S. I'll seriously start writing something during the day, once I've sketched out a table.

I'm still not getting it. The answer "no, no, no" doesn't work for the given trio (all are true), so we shouldn't "eliminate" **Lokena** just yet. But it's still worth listening to...

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But the girl isn't a maniac, she's just chaotic.

There's a term for such characters: "joinable maniac." That is, a maniac who can join certain teams.

The past night on Fragment had a heavier impact on him than on the others. He arranged the cots as a barrier around himself and refused to talk to anyone. After a couple of attempts to talk to him, it was decided to leave him alone.

Earlier that night:
- Dave, what is that device, I don't want to go there, aaaah

But if it was assassins coming for me, then thank you.

So, that means there are only four roles left:

1) Doctor Salzman (no points, High)
2) Player Charlie (no points, High)
3) Ghost of the Abbot (no points, High)
4) Ghost of the Girl (High, Lone, could have chosen points)

Why? If Yashur's interpretation is correct, then by lying on the second question, he can only be the survivor. Or am I missing something?

First, I'd like to know how a survivor can answer questions without knowing what items they have...

Well, logically, the Survivor should have Janet's items.
She arrived first, the special ability triggered, the items went to the Survivor, and the GM informed him about them along with some questions.

As for all the other visitors, he'll find out about them "in the morning," with the newspaper.

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But yes, I would like to get a definitive answer from the GM.

Fragment, Morning gave these answers:

1) No points;
2) High IQ;
3) A loner.

I came up with 4 options:

1) Doctor Salzman - he has no points, high IQ, but he is NOT a loner;
2) Player Charlie - he has no points, high IQ, but he is NOT a loner;
3) Ghost of the Abbot - he has no points, high IQ, but he is NOT a loner;
4) Ghost of the Girl - high IQ, a loner, could have chosen points at the beginning of the game and lied, saying she has none.

By the way, the girl option is the least obvious - why would she immediately reveal her role?

Fragment, if something is wrong, please correct me.

Well, purely by logic, the Survivor will have Janet's items
She arrived first, the trait triggered, the Survivor has the items; the Mage Guild informed him about them along with the questions

Yeah, that makes sense. In that case, Loken is not the survivor.

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By the way, the option with the girl is the least obvious — why would he reveal his role immediately?

Good question, actually. Although Loken didn't expand the circle of worlds with "no, no, no" answers, he did rule out the option with the girl. Why would a potential player/doc take on the role of an "attachable maniac"...

Evil Lizard, therefore, Morning probably had to respond that he doesn't have any points and has a high IQ, but he lied about the Faction. He lied for what reason? Because if he had said Peaceful, then the roles of Doctor and Player would be eliminated (not all statements can be true). It seems we've figured out the Abbot?)))

Tox celebrated Halloween all night (and even managed to play a couple of rounds of real-life Mafia), so he only joined now.

I haven't read the day's log yet, here's my analysis of the night:

Lars - not revealed
Batista - insurance for Heaven
Blogger - Morning's poll
Dave - Fragment's isolation
Eddie - Tox or Crabby
Doc - not revealed
Charlie - not revealed
Suzanne - Neffela, right?

Mafia,very likely,blocked me or Crabby, checked someone, healed their teammate, and unsuccessfully killed with the doctor.

Manic, obviously, was observing.

We need to think about Girl tomorrow. I need to reread the list of night actions with a fresh mind and think about which one was most likely used in the first night. Or maybe she simply redirected the action.

Regarding Morning's poll:

1) Lenses - is this a reference to an item? Not to IQ, right? I glanced at the available items and see glasses. So, the question was "Do you have glasses?" or something like that. The answer is "No".
2) Some guys are dumb = Morning has a higher IQ than some others. Therefore, the question was about IQ level, and according to the answer, Morning has a high IQ.
3) The question about the side remains... Is there a girlfriend? I don't really understand. There are living girlfriends among the townspeople, so the question can be understood as "Are you a townie?", which is a simpler and more logical question. Then the answer is "No". An alternative version is that if there is no girlfriend, the person is lonely, so maybe the question is "Are you a loner?". Then the answer is "Yes".

A few questions for the GM:

1) Are the players informed when a night action is redirected? If someone went to Arandor, but actually checked Amko, will you tell him in the answer "AMKO is such-and-such"?
2) Will the first paragraph in the newspapers always be purely literary? Or is it worth analyzing?
3) At what point does the target learn that Charlie has changed their night action?
4) At what point does the player learn that they have been injected with adrenaline?

Table:

Fragment - not Cliff, not Dave, not Suzanne?
Me and Crabby - 100% not Eddie, very likely that neither of us is a Mafia blocker. Not Dave, not Suzanne?
Neffela - not Suzanne?

It's not very clear about the night action that went to Neffela.

Now I'll read the day's log and add to my post.

Thanks everyone.

1. If Janet visits the Survivor, he will copy her items and use them for the survey. 2. The first paragraph always contains a literary description. 3. The result is given to the checkers along with the nickname. 4. The player will learn that the actions were swapped or doubled at the beginning of the next night.

I see that I'm not the only one with questions for the Master. The theory about whether the Survivor has time to collect items from the blogger if she comes to him on the very first night, before he answers her questions, needs to be clarified.

We need to think about role options for Locken with a fresh perspective.

I won't let anyone execute me, and I won't let anyone execute Crabby either. There are too many defenses, immunities, and isolation from the Fragment, and there are also many really useful, but unrevealed, hero roles. Executing one of us randomly on the first day is pointless. So, Crabby, I'm willing to play with you for now. I think Eddie was afraid of me and blocked me, and the Mafia blocked you (but this is just a theory), so I consider you peaceful at the moment. And you are showing a lot of activity, which I like.

Yashur very quickly changed the topic to discussing the poll, from which I can conclude that he is probably not in league with Morny. It would be disadvantageous for him to focus attention on his teammate. But this is, again, just an assumption. And the unwillingness to discuss possible Night Actions also makes me a little uneasy. For now, Yashur seems suspicious to me.

Neyra did a good job outlining the possible reasons for the failed kill, after which she disappeared, but she had warned that she wouldn't be very active on the first day. For now, she is not a suspect.

Revan and Nefela are still neutral, neither here nor there.

Fragment came and started obsessing over the poll again, without any analysis of the Night Actions. I don't like this either.

I'm waiting for the others to join the discussion today. We need to talk.

For now, on the first day, I'm playing with Crabby, Alex, and, just for good measure, with Nefela and Revan. I expected more from Fragment and Yashur than just dwelling on the poll.

Another question for everyone: are we sure that Nefela's Night Action was specifically on Suzanne? Perhaps we should examine the list of Night Actions and see what kind of Night Action it could have been from the ghost of a girl, for example?

We definitely need to wait for the Master's answers and for Morny to appear in the discussion.

Thank you all for your attention.

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Aha, while I was writing the second post, the Master came and explained everything.

Then things are a little easier.

I'm going to sleep. I won't be very active tomorrow during the day because I'll be busy with real-life matters, but I'll be back in the evening and will be very active. I ask all players not to be silent either, but to offer at least options for discussing a possible Night Action from the ghost of a girl (can I refer to her as just "girl" in the future?)

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Last question. Charlie has 2 Night Action targets.

Am I right in assuming that if Suzanne is watching him, she will only reveal the target he names as the main one? Or will she find out that there were 2 targets and be able to immediately reveal that it was Charlie?

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Master, my dear, one more question, I promise it's the last one...

The Guardian has a kill that ignores isolation. Does it work when the target is isolated, or also when the Guardian himself is isolated?