The most USELESS monster. — General

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10/13/2007 10:47 AM UTC #1

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There's a thread about the most useful monster, and now there will be one about the least useful monster. Who do you think is the least useful monster, and in what situation?

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10/13/2007 11:16 AM UTC #2

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OptiMAL;118712

There's a thread about the most useful monster, and now there will be one about the most useless monster :)
Who do you consider to be such a monster, and in what situation?

I think the most useless are mages against Dungeon creatures :D. You could also mention Djinns, but comparing them, mages "win":)

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10/13/2007 11:49 AM UTC #3

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I think the most useless ones are mages against Dark Knights:D You can also mention Djinns, but comparing them, mages "win":)

Not only against Dark Knights) But also against a Rambo-Barbarian with 100% resistance.

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10/13/2007 11:59 AM UTC #4

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Leprechaun – what’s the point of it? Is it for luck? In my opinion, it’s one of the most useless “monsters.” The Dragon King is also useless in battle when, besides him, you have other creatures. I agree with the respected ZYbr. Creatures that cast direct damage spells, any kind of damage, are useless for both the Black Dragons and the Berserkers.

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10/13/2007 12:12 PM UTC #5

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General ZeT;118736

Leprechaun - what is its purpose? Is it for luck? In my opinion, it is one of the most useless "monsters." The Dragon King is also useless in battle when, in addition to him, you have other creatures. I agree with the respected ZYbr. Creatures that cast direct damage spells, of any kind, are useless for both Dungeon and Stronghold.

Exactly, it's for luck)) summoning to get 2-3 units is enough. And the king... how could I forget about him, so many "positive" emotions are associated with him))
And they also make pretty good skeletons:D
P.S. I'm starting to like Necropolis))) I need to study it in more detail)):D
P.S. 2 General ZeT, you can address me without "respected" and use "you")):)
We are all friends here)) I hope)):)

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10/13/2007 2:26 PM UTC #6

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Since we've touched on this topic, I'll share my opinion. In my view, the most useless unit is the "Pirates." On land, they're as weak as peasants and offer no real advantage! And in naval battles against a serious opponent, it's a rare occurrence, and even then, you can't amass a large number of pirates.

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10/13/2007 2:50 PM UTC #7

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Useless monsters... Are there even such things? If your army contains useless units, then, in my opinion, the only thing to say is that you are not a very good tactician.

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10/13/2007 3:19 PM UTC #8

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I think Berserkers and Mad Bulls are the most useless units. Even the aforementioned Leprechauns and Pirates will be more useful, because a person controls them, not the computer, which is known for its "intelligence":D
Although, in principle, Pandora is right – you can get some benefit from any monster:)

А, вот почему.

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10/13/2007 3:27 PM UTC #9

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Useless monsters... Are there such things??? If you have useless units in your army, then, in my opinion, the only thing you can say is that you are a bad tactician.

Not entirely correct. Useless monsters do exist. They can simply stand there and prevent other units from passing. (What will one fairy do on the battlefield!?) It needs to fly to the archer in 2 turns. Before that, the enemy units move forward and simply kill the fairy along the way. Who did it benefit? No one, it just occupied one stack. The same applies to a large number of fairies (30-40).

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10/13/2007 3:51 PM UTC #10

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That's not entirely correct. There are truly useless monsters. They can just stand there and get in the way of other units. (Will a single fairy do anything on the battlefield!?) It takes her 2 turns to fly to the archer. By that time, the enemy units have moved forward and simply killed the fairy along the way. Who did she benefit? No one, she just occupied one stack. The same applies to a large number of fairies (30-40).

But that's wrong, even a single fairy can be useful, it can block enemy archers, albeit briefly, but someone will have to send that fairy to the afterlife)).
Although I also don't agree with Pandora, there are definitely useless units, but I think the point of this topic is to determine the *most* useless monster. So, there's no need to say that all monsters are useful; that's obvious, the topic is about something else.

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10/13/2007 3:55 PM UTC #11

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But that's a mistake, even a single fairy can be useful; it can block enemy archers, albeit briefly, but someone will have to send that fairy to the afterlife.

Well, I already wrote that they simply won't reach that far. Unless, of course, they step on something.

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10/13/2007 4:25 PM UTC #12

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To all Heroes:smile02:. It's not worth upsetting the Fairy. For its usefulness, the Fairy can really pack a punch. What the Fairy means to me: If I play with only one hero (which happens very often): a) The Fairy adds two steps to each hero's movement. b) In battle, it doesn't hinder and often helps because it can be placed under the fire of a large group of Water Elementals (and not only them), and they won't shoot at it because it's an inefficient use of their turn, or they will cast a spell or walk towards it (if there's no one to cast magic on). c) Even when playing against another player (as Zubr rightly pointed out), you have to react to a well-positioned Fairy. For example, if they interfere with the archers, you need to kill them with someone, which means diverting some of your army and possibly using Crusaders. d) If there are more than ten Fairies, they often chase and lure slow units across the battlefield, and while they're doing that, you can shoot them down. And most importantly, for offline play, it's probably the most useful creature.:smile20: P.S. Yes, I can probably recall many more cases from my gaming experience where the FAIRY was the one that saved the day.

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10/13/2007 4:32 PM UTC #13

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Leshy, well, of course, a fairy is an unknown entity in the official game. With skilled hands (like IronAxe), you can do anything with it. I just said it as an example.
But in some cases, it still doesn't offer much benefit. They are rare, but still.:)
P.S. And let's not stray from the topic. Otherwise, there will be arguments again).

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10/13/2007 7:16 PM UTC #14

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That's not entirely correct. There are indeed useless monsters. They can simply stand there and hinder the movement of other units. (Will a single fairy on the battlefield actually do anything!?) It needs to fly to the archer in 2 turns. Before that, the enemy units move forward and simply kill the fairy along the way. Who did it benefit? No one, it just occupied one stack. The same applies to a large number of fairies (30-40).

But what am I talking about?! You, for example, took these fairies into battle for some reason. If they were just getting in the way, why did you take them?

So, there's no need to say that all monsters are useful; that's obvious. We're talking about something else here.

I wouldn't say "all are useful" or "all are useless," but rather I would talk about the advantage of one unit over another. There are situations where pirates are more advantageous than skeletons, and leprechauns and satyrs are more advantageous than wolves or tigers, for example.
With this statement, it is impossible to definitively determine a monster that is ALWAYS USELESS. That doesn't exist!

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10/13/2007 7:55 PM UTC #15

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Pandora;118834

With this statement, it is impossible to determine once and for all a USELESS monster. That doesn't exist!

With the same success, I can say that it is impossible to determine once and for all the MOST USEFUL monster!
And then what? Is that it?!
Pandora, you surprise me...
Sincerely

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