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What steps should the developers take regarding Heroes 5?
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Make minor improvements and release it by the end of March
15.4% 10 votes
Refine bug fixes more carefully and postpone the release date.
29.2% 19 votes
Careful refinement, postponement of release, another test, further refinement, release
55.4% 36 votes
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It was officially announced that the release date is postponed to the second quarter of 2006. More precisely, within the period of Q1 2006/2007.

So now Nival can calmly fix the bugs.
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Here is Nival Interactive's response to the current situation:
Elle
Hello!
Dima is feeling unwell today, and with your permission, I will answer your questions instead of him.
The release date was postponed by Ubisoft; I won't comment on the specific reasons. I can only say that there was no definite release date until the very last moment, and there was always a possibility that it could be postponed by about a month. So, the community's statement may have served as an additional argument.

There is no talk of postponing the release by six months. Even in the official statements (which Ubisoft representatives didn't rush to make, meaning they thought it over several times), the second quarter of 2006 is mentioned.

And one more thing... I would still like to add. When I said that the work on the game was almost finished (I already commented on this), I meant that the development of the game – the game mechanics, design solutions, etc. – was completed. And there was still work to be done on optimization, balancing, polishing, and so on – everything that is traditionally done in the final stage of development. Neither the size of the map, nor the interface, nor any other game elements will be changed; the additional time will be spent on bug fixing and improving the balance.
That's it:(
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It seems that Nival's PR team is trying to present things in a more favorable light and reassure the public... I think that if there is significant feedback from testers that influences the publisher, Nival will quickly change the battlefield and bring the interface into a normal state, and fix many other things, as they now have plenty of time... No matter what, the community is a powerful force :p
Меня всегда преследуют умные мысли, но я все равно быстрее :D
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I agree with many on this and other forums: the interface, building pages, hero inventory, and other elements should visually adhere more to the style of the previous Heroes games (since they repeatedly stated that they "took the best from the previous games" and so on). Regarding the innovation in the pseudo-chess or mini-hero battle arena, I can only hope that the developers don't miss the mark and that it will be something new, distinctive, and very playable (because, as far as I've read, everyone agrees: they developed it and already balanced it, tied it to an 8x10 grid, and as a result, they WON'T CHANGE IT!). It's a pity that, apart from the protest about the early, unfinished release of the game, the developers seem to have paid little attention to fan opinions; many decisions have been made, and the impression is that there was not enough information about the innovations for the fans (more understanding would have led to fewer hysterics, even if they were unfounded). And so on, and so on, and so on... P.S. All of the above is my personal opinion, with great respect for the developers, in the hope that Heroes 5, after its release, will not take into account all the opinions of gamers (THIS IS IMPOSSIBLE!), but will turn out to be a masterpiece that will be appreciated and adored by the whole world. PEACE TO THE WORLD!:)
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Yes. Everything is developing in a very interesting way...
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:2: Katrine & all: Regarding Elle's message, in which she says that it is impossible to change the interface and the battlefield ;), I would like to demonstrate the following observation:
On the Nival forum, in the topic "Open Beta - Glitches and Bugs", the first post contains information about what the developers considered a bug in the game... Here is a quote from there:
Gameplay:
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The size of the battlefield is not final, as well as the number of obstacles.
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Visuals:
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The interface is being refined, for example, for duel mode or for construction in cities.

So, how does this align with Elle's words? :rolleyes:

In short, I have the impression that Nival's PR people are completely unaware of the situation and do not coordinate their words with the programmers and game designers...
Меня всегда преследуют умные мысли, но я все равно быстрее :D
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"The release dates were postponed by decision of Ubisoft; I won't comment on the specific reasons." - that's amusing :)

Do you know about the promotion on the Nival forum?
Or were all the news items deleted immediately?
I haven't been there in a while...
- Доктор, меня все игнорируют!!! :mad:
- Следующий!!! :eek: :eek: :eek:
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NecroFill
In short, I have the impression that Nival's PR people have absolutely no idea what's going on and don't coordinate their words with the programmers and game designers...
Now I have the same impression:D
Although, it was because of disagreements with the PR people that I was sent into exile:) And here's where justice lies:confused:
WhiteHawk
Do they know about the promotion on the Nival forum?
Or did they delete all the news right away?
I haven't been there in a while...
They know. They even created a topic with an appropriate title
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Justice prevails here, sir Moderator! ;)
- Доктор, меня все игнорируют!!! :mad:
- Следующий!!! :eek: :eek: :eek:
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Katrine
Panic cannot be unfounded. Moreover, these are the largest websites, and they shape the masses' opinions about the heroes. The fact that saveheroes.org has already been visited by more than 40,000 people, and more than 2,000 signatures have been collected, is thought-provoking.
As for the voting, I'm in favor of option 3. I'd rather wait, but let it be a masterpiece. After all, can you name even one Blizzard game that was released on time? But they all became masterpieces.
As for the problems, the main problem, in my opinion, is the skills. There are outright overpowered skills and outright useless ones. Plus, the skill system, when it offers random choices... Here's an example. A Ranger can get Absolute Luck at level 5!!!! And how do you balance that? Every hit with luck is overpowered. Or Tent/Ballistics – if you get this skill, you'll be able to resurrect dragons/kill dragons, but if you don't, you'll feel like an idiot.
There is a solution, though. But then everyone will complain about it being an RPG. Namely, give players a choice of all the skills (like in Neverwinter Nights) and let the player choose what they need. Reduce the number of levels for upgrading, for example, to 20, and let them choose the most essential ones. Then the game will become very tactical. You can really assess the player's potential. If they do that, I'm all for it.
It would be good to return to the hero interface. Because the one proposed by Nival, in my opinion, is terrible. Or just remove all the buttons and assign all the controls to the mouse (again, Neverwinter Nights). I would choose the hero interface.
And, of course, increase the battlefield.
And abandon area-of-effect attacks by units. This is the worst simplification of tactics. You hit a dragon, and everyone gets roasted. You need to distribute damage with your troops wisely, and not suffer with this nonsense.
Remove the racial special abilities, except for necromancy. It turned out to be nonsense. There are special abilities, but the magic of the races is the same. It's stupid.

I'm also in favor, because sometimes you need wisdom, but you get some useless skill...
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let's wait... it's like comparing Heroes 3 to Heroes 4.
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After the failure of the 4th installment, I wouldn't want to see the same issues repeated in the 5th. In my opinion, the 4th game ruined the hero deployment on the battlefield and the lack of creature upgrades. There are, of course, many other shortcomings, but these are the most critical. So, let them keep working on it.
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It needs to be finished! Although there isn't much left to do, just balance it and fix the bugs in some areas. And then it's ready for release after testing!
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Xaker
Although not that many, the balance needs to be adjusted, and there are glitches in some areas. And then it can go on sale after testing!
But in my opinion, there are many issues. In this state, it's only good for two or three days of gameplay. After that, it becomes incredibly tedious, and you feel like you've been cheated.
The game is unfinished. The skill and magic system is, in my opinion, only in the alpha stage. It shouldn't be released in this state.
There's no balance. The first level is stronger than the third! What more is there to say?
We'll have to write another petition to postpone the game and finish it properly.
But there is
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I'd rather play it even in this state than play that pathetic Fourth installment, which has been patched a hundred million times (and which should be banned and deleted from all hard drives, flash drives, audio, video tapes, and other storage media).

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