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Well, that's wonderful! As they say, everything Askha touches turns out for the better!
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Regarding Psathi, I don't remember him ever having any negative feelings towards you (or anyone else). As far as I can tell, this person has always been a proponent of peace.
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Hello, forum members, I would like to discuss the development of General relations between forum participants. I see a misunderstanding between me and my comrades (Frozensoull, Dima1247, and psatkha). We have already discussed all the contentious issues with comrades zahar0z and Phoenix 2100 and reached a common understanding. It's unpleasant to hear many things about myself, that I am a cunning YouTuber, a parasite who disrespects the authors. And according to Frozensoull: "That's the whole point, it's nothing more than new content, in other words, just a parade of false hypocrisy under the guise of discussion." In the new year, I would like to end the hostility and words like "this goat insulted us." After all, a review includes not only negativity but also positive moments, which the authors of the messages above do not mention. I suggest contacting each other on Skype and discussing all the points. I already wrote a personal message to comrade Frozensoull, but unfortunately, it remained unanswered.

You have your niche, and I and other modders have ours! If you and the respected comrade zahar0z have found common ground, and that ancient incident is resolved, then that is very, very good for the world of Heroes 5! As they say, Askhabar turns everything into good!
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It's a bit unsettling that the Dreadnought is so interested in the Necropolis. Will 5.5 now absorb the Necropolis as well?
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As I understood from the dialogue with him, they are planning to do it, but there are compatibility issues with their map generator (ARMG).
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I'm getting more and more worried about 5.5.
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I'm getting more and more worried about 5.5.

Why?! I personally am all for merging everything into one. If they also added scripts from 3.1 to 5.5, then we could achieve compatibility with NHF... and that would be 99% like WoG! :smile13:
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Why?!
Because it looks like Monopoly.
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where is the monopoly here if there are no competitors? well, at least in the foreign community, many people play EVE. and combining all possible EXE modifications is a big plus, which will greatly improve the game's modifiability overall.
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Well, maybe they're absent because of a monopoly? Think about it, how can I compete with 5.5 if, no matter what I do, everything will automatically be absorbed into 5.5?

Regarding combining different mods, I have nothing negative to say. But can you briefly explain in what specific ways does 5.5 increase the modifiability of the game? I'll admit, I'm not very familiar with the functionality of 5.5, but I suspect it's just another huge collection with a lot of things thrown together. For example, I genuinely dislike the approach of Eva because "twenty recolored minotaurs" is a real sore spot for me. And in general, I've always preferred quality over quantity.

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psatkha
and all of this will already be 99% analogous to WoG! :smile13:

I've already said that I'm not for WoG, but for HotA.
I'm not interested in a project that consists of 90 percent of a large amount of miscellaneous stuff thrown together. I would rather see a neat, high-quality project made with attention to detail, even if it's significantly smaller. But, unfortunately, in the current climate, this is simply impossible. Any potential HotA will now be brazenly absorbed in its infancy by your WoG analog, i.e., 5.5.
That's why I say that these guys are creating a monopoly.

And frankly, I'm still amazed by the indifference of our small community.
Large groups and streamers publish mods without links and attribution? Who cares, why would anyone need to write anything.
They steal big, well-known mods, everything that isn't nailed down, thereby preventing smaller projects from gaining an audience. Who cares.
Let's create our own resources to develop? No, that's not necessary.
I'm already losing hope because of this reaction. Am I really the only one who cares about all of this?

Moreover, sometimes they even praise such things.
Groups that steal resources without indicating authorship are good; they're a good replacement for dead websites.
5.5 is good; it's WoG. Look around, this attitude has led to the fact that there is nothing left but 5.5.

At the same time, it's not difficult to do everything differently. 5.5 can publish links to the mods it uses and create optional patches for compatibility. Groups and streamers, as Remix and the admin of this group have already proven, can publish mods with links to the authors.

This is important. It's important that people who like mods for the 5th game know that our site exists and that we are here. And that modding for Heroes is not limited to Dreadnought and his 5.5. Why am I explaining obvious things again? And how can I make you care about the development of our community?
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Well, maybe they are absent because of a monopoly? Think about it yourself: for example, how can I compete with 5.5 if everything I do is automatically dragged into 5.5 anyway?

Regarding the combination of different exes, I have nothing bad to say. But could you explain in a few words specifically how 5.5 increases the moddability of the game? I admit I'm not very familiar with the functionality of 5.5, but I suspect it's just another behemoth with a huge amount of everything all at once, thrown into one pile. For instance, Eva honestly repulses me because "twenty recolored minotaurs" is exactly my sore spot. In general, I've always been more for quality than quantity.

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I already said that I'm not for WoG, but for HotA.
I'm simply not interested in a project consisting of 90 percent of a large amount of motley trash piled into one heap. I would rather see, or create, a neat, high-quality project made with attention to detail, even if it is significantly smaller. But alas, in the current climate, this is simply impossible. Any potential HotA now will be brazenly swallowed in its infancy by your WoG analog, i.e., 5.5.
That's exactly why I say those guys are creating a monopoly.

And honestly, I never cease to be amazed by the indifference of our small community.
Large groups and streamers publish mods without links or authorship? Who cares, why bother writing anything.
They steal large well-known mods—everything that isn't nailed down—thereby preventing small projects from gaining an audience. Who cares.
Let's create our own resources to develop? No, that's not necessary.
I'm starting to give up because of such a reaction. Am I really the only one who cares about all this?

Moreover, sometimes such things are even praised.
Groups that stole resources without citing authorship—that's good, a good replacement for dead sites.
5.5 is good, it's WoG. For heaven's sake, look around; this attitude has led to the fact that there is nothing left except 5.5.

At the same time, it's not hard at all to do things differently. 5.5 could publish links to the mods it uses and create optional compatibility patches. Groups and streamers—as already proven by Remix and the admin of this group—can publish mods with links to the authors.

This is important. It's important that people who like mods for 5 know that our site exists and that we are here. And that modding Heroes does not end exclusively with Dreadnaut and his 5.5 mod. Why am I explaining obvious things again? And how can I make it so you don't give a damn about the development of our community?

I agree with you 95% (the 5% is due to my dislike of WoG ); I don't see anything bad in 5.5, on the contrary—it's a kind of framework upon which additions\improvements can be attached, and one can view 5.5 as something that promotes the spread of our Creation... I'll even give a real-life example: Bill Gates was once asked why his company doesn't fight software pirates... to which he replied: my dream is to see our software on as many computers as possible! ;)
С уважением, Psatkha (Псатха)

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To be honest, I also think that absorbing smaller projects is not the best way to develop modding.
Of course, in the full sense of the word, no one is "absorbing" anyone, but nevertheless, people almost never know where the material was taken from, especially when it comes to large projects that include many small ones.

I think it would be better for each side if, instead of adding one mod to another, work was done on the compatibility of modifications and links to compatible mods were provided. Everyone would benefit from this; large mods would thereby prove their optionality and flexibility, and small projects would attract attention.
Модификации для Heroes V 3.1:

[Модификация]Phoenix Vision - Комплексное модифицирование визуального аспекта игры.
[Модификация]UNIT-Баланс существ + визуальные изменения.
[Модификация]NewTransformUndead-Таблица поднятия нежити.

[Модификация]VisualFix-Устрание визуальных багов.

Карты для Heroes V 3.1:

[Карта][1x1]The Last Stand - Дуэльная карта финальных битв


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Frozensoull
To be honest, I also think that absorbing smaller projects is not the best way to develop modding.
Of course, in the full sense of the word, no one is "absorbing" anyone, but nevertheless, people almost never know where the material was taken from, especially when it comes to large projects that include many small ones.

I think it would be better for each party if, instead of adding one mod to another, work was done on the compatibility of modifications and links to compatible mods were provided.

Well, since your content was included in his MOD, it means the creator didn't create it in vain, but the fact that the authors aren't credited is a complete mess!
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Well, since your content was included in their MOD, it means the creator wasn't wrong to make it, but what they don't mention is that it's complete nonsense!

I think that not all modders aim to have their mods included in larger projects. Some probably want to forge their own path, and as it is, their projects remain in the shadows.

I'm not saying that large projects that include smaller ones are bad. I just think it would be better if, instead of including them, they worked on making the modifications compatible.
Модификации для Heroes V 3.1:

[Модификация]Phoenix Vision - Комплексное модифицирование визуального аспекта игры.
[Модификация]UNIT-Баланс существ + визуальные изменения.
[Модификация]NewTransformUndead-Таблица поднятия нежити.

[Модификация]VisualFix-Устрание визуальных багов.

Карты для Heroes V 3.1:

[Карта][1x1]The Last Stand - Дуэльная карта финальных битв


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Frozensoull
I think that not all modders aim to have their mods included in larger projects. Some probably want to forge their own path, and as it is, their projects remain in the shadows.

I'm not saying that large projects that include smaller ones are bad. I just think it would be better if, instead of including them, they worked on making the modifications compatible.

Well, yes, or at least asked for permission, because as I understand it, dredknight didn't ask permission from the respected comrade zahar0z to use his content... well, okay, he didn't ask, but at least he could have written that he used content from such-and-such modder and provided a link to the original source!
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