“Best map for Heroes of Might and Magic III” (2007). — Contests

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VDV_forever

2/4/2007 10:47 AM UTC

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CONTEST: "Best HeroesWorld map of 2007
for Heroes of Might and Magic 3"

КОНКУРС Лучшая карта для героев меча и магии 3 за 2007г на HeroesWorld

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This thread will be used to evaluate all maps created by esteemed mapmakers wishing to take part in the annual contest for the best map!

To participate in the contest, you must familiarize yourself with the rules below:

1. The map must be at least 72x72 (preferably with a Dungeon).
2. The map can be made in any editor (except WOG)!!!
3. The map must be created by you personally.
4. The map must contain heroes with the nicknames of forum members.
5. Send the completed map to the email address VDV_forever@BK.RU, or post it in this thread

The participant must remember:

1. If a player claims a map that is not their own, they will be automatically excluded from the contest and punished.
2. Maps made in a map generator are not accepted!!!

Contest dates:

Maps will be accepted until November 20, 2007; the winner will be determined on November 30, 2007!
After receiving your map, you will see in the application table that:

the map has been received and is under review - indicated by a bold Nickname.
the map has been accepted - indicated by an italicized bold Nickname.

Prizes:

1. There will be only one winner.
2. A reward in the form of a Virtual prize in the profile and under the avatar.
3. A certificate of honor from www.heroesworld.ru (Sent by mail).

Map Evaluation.

Maps will be evaluated based on the following categories:

1. Map size, presence of a Dungeon. 72X72 - 10 points, 108x108 - 15 points, 144x144 - 20 points, Dungeon - 10 points.
2. Map density (i.e., absence of "empty space"). Max points - 20.
3. Number and, most importantly, quality of mini-quests. Max points - 10.
4. Beauty of the landscape and the world in general. Max points - 10.
5. Presence of balance (the map should be designed for high-level players). Max points - 10.
6. Thoughtfulness and strength of neutral monsters. Max points - 10.
7. Thoughtfulness and strength of the computer opponent. Max points - 10.

Judges:

VDV_forever, Kolb@zzer, Sage

1. After testing the map, each judge evaluates it on each of the 7 points and assigns points from a minimum of 1 point to the maximum (specified within each point).
2. Each judge is required to give an objective evaluation (summary) for every map. In this evaluation, judges must specify all pros and cons of the map and provide a conclusion.
3. The judge has the right:

- If there are errors that make the map impassable, deduct up to 20 points per error;
- If there are errors but the map is passable despite them, deduct up to 5 points per error;
- Deduct points for aspects not included in the above points if this is mentioned in the summary;
- Return the map to the tournament participant to fix errors and shortcomings.

An offline tournament called "Best of the Best - 2" will be held on our website for the "Best Homm3 Map", i.e., the map that takes first place in the contest!

PARTICIPANT LIST
NUMBER	PARTICIPANT NICK	Map	Date Modified	Rating
1	AlexeyPank
2	Алисия
3	Kimmanuel Oblodra
4	<))Dimitrius((>
5	Dmitry_A_S
6	*SandroXXL*		14.09.07 (1)
7	Ley
8	*Александр Г.К.*		26.09.07 (0)
9	*Ganymed*		31.08.07 (0)
10	Entony
11	*Maximula*		31.08.07 (0)
12	*Vanechka*		14.09.07 (1)
13	*Fenix*		31.08.07 (0)
14	*Denminator*		17.10.07 (1)
15	*Joyce*		31.08.07 (0)
16	*lankwe*		17.10.07 (2)
17	*PrutkoFF*		14.09.07 (0)
18	Vasko
19	Windows Vienna
20	*Knight-voland*		23.10.07 (0)
21	*Max714*		6.11.07 (0)
22	*Драко*		20.11.07 (0)
23	*RAPER*		20.11.07 (0)
24	*Freeman*		11.11.07 (0)

For those whose map was made in WOG, it is suggested to convert it to SOD using a special program /attachments/5148/

Thread where you can ask questions about this program:

/topic/at/107043/

Good luck.

Sincerely, VDV_forever

Единый справочник по Героям Меча и Магии

ТУРНИРЫ ПО ГЕРОЯМ 1!:smile13:

lankwe

9/18/2007 4:53 PM UTC

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And I haven't forgotten anything. Only one hero had a standard name, while the other four had nicknames from forum users. Now I've corrected it for the fifth one. Please make your complaints specific, or just accept the map. Thank you...

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K0Lb@zzeR

9/19/2007 12:37 AM UTC

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Vasko;112826

I want to participate, but I'm surprised by this: you can earn almost as many points for purely technical aspects as for the creative component. For example, an empty XL map with an empty Dungeon will be rated the same as a very interesting and detailed single-level map. What are these 20 points for – for two mouse clicks?
I think the evaluation criteria need to be changed.

I agree with you. The other day, I had a conversation with VDV_forever (I initiated it) about revising the scoring system.

When evaluating maps, I thought that the scoring system could be improved (points for each item):

1. Map size, presence of a Dungeon. 72x72 - 5 points, 108x108 - 10 points, 144x144 - 20 points, Dungeon - 10 points.
/It would be more logical if the score was tied to the map's area, not its dimensions, i.e., the score is directly proportional to the area/

2. Map density (i.e., the absence of "empty space").
Max. number of points - 72x72 - 10 points, 108x108 - 15 points, 144x144 - 20 points.
/It's more logical that the larger the map, the more difficult and time-consuming it is to make it dense/

3. Number and, most importantly, quality of mini-quests. Max. number of points - 40.
/Good and well-thought-out quests deserve a good reward/

4. Beauty of the landscape, the world as a whole. Max. number of points - 40.
/Creating beauty is painstaking work; I would probably give even more points for it if it deserves it/

5. Presence of balance (the map should be designed for high-level players). Max. number of points - 60.
/For an excellently designed balance on a map, you can get more points, even for a small map with a well-thought-out balance, than for a large map with a poorly designed balance./

6. Thoughtfulness and strength of neutral monsters. Max. number of points - 30.

7. Thoughtfulness and strength of the computer opponent. Max. number of points - 50.
/It's more difficult to design a computer opponent than neutral monsters, so you can get more points for it/

And VDV_forever asked me to evaluate the maps using both systems, and then we can choose which system will have a more subjective evaluation.

Sincerely, K0Lb@zzeR.

:smile13: [ТУРНИР] "Гонка за Лидером" :smile13:
:smile28: [M] "Я и моя тень" - "I am and my shadow" :smile28:
:smile16: ~~"Быстрая смерть" - "Fast Death"~~ :smile16:

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Mucmuk

9/19/2007 1:39 AM UTC

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Sorry if this question has already been asked (I haven't read the entire thread).
Is it allowed to create map remakes of other Heroes games? (it doesn't matter if it's from part 2, 4, or 5).

And one more question. Will a similar contest be held for HommIV?
Thank you.

Ley

9/19/2007 7:05 AM UTC

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2 Mucmuk: Are you just trying to copy a map from another part? I don't think so, it shouldn't be allowed because it should be your own idea, something that hasn't been seen before. You should take the initiative in creating your masterpiece. In other words, create and win on your own... ;)

"Единственное, что можно сказать с уверенностью об удаче - она изменит..."

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Vanechka

9/19/2007 7:46 AM UTC

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lankwe;113060

I haven't forgotten anything. Only one hero had a standard name, while the other four had nicknames from forum users. Now I've corrected the fifth one. Please make your complaints specific, or accept the map. Thank you...

In principle, it should be accepted because the map действительно contains nicknames from forum users... Regarding the nicknames, I think the intention was as follows: you can change the nicknames of all available for hire heroes (tools/map properties/heroes). If you need nicknames, see post #25 in this thread.
If you want, also look at posts 102-118, which are about specific complaints. There are also many posts deleted with specific complaints between 126 and 127.
However, I repeat - the map itself is primary, and it complies with the rules, therefore, it should be accepted. On the other hand, you will lose points for the absence of nicknames for all available heroes.

Am I right, esteemed judges? Should the map be accepted? I looked, there are nicknames. The map is in the competition. What's the problem? Please tell the person what the discrepancies are!

P.S. Post 182 was a killer... Will the rules or the evaluation system still be changed???????????? after all this effort?????????

Истинно говорю вам: 21 декабря 2012 года Земля налетит на небесную ось!

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K0Lb@zzeR

9/20/2007 12:51 AM UTC

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Vanechka;113174

Although, I repeat, the map itself is primary, and the fact that it complies with the rules means it should be accepted. On the other hand, you will lose points for the lack of nicknames for all available heroes.

Am I right, esteemed judges? Shouldn't the map be accepted? I checked, there are nicknames. The map is in the SOD. What's the problem? Please tell the person what the discrepancies are!

The decision on whether to accept maps is made by VDV_forever. And the fact that "points will be deducted for the lack of nicknames for all available heroes" is something I will take care of.

Vanechka;113174

P.S.: Post 182 was a killer... will the rules or the evaluation system still be changed???????????? after all the blood, sweat, and tears?????????

I repeat that I made a proposal to revise the map evaluation system, and whether this proposal will be accepted or not can only be answered by VDV_forever. (At the time the competition was organized, I was not a judge, and the fact that I suggested changing the evaluation system was prompted by reviewing the maps.)

Ley

9/20/2007 10:03 AM UTC

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K0Lb@zzeR, please respond to post #183; even I am curious... :)

"Единственное, что можно сказать с уверенностью об удаче - она изменит..."

RAPER

9/20/2007 11:58 AM UTC

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yes - and I have another question - will the number of players be taken into account? - i.e., how many there are for each color.

играю на уровне AI !!:smile32: ;)

Sage

9/20/2007 9:07 PM UTC

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Well, let's get started :) . I've played through Might & Magic VIII, now I'll focus on evaluating the submitted maps, or rather, I've already played through and evaluated one :smile31: . But I won't say which one :) .

Твой дом там, где твоё сердце.
Все люди - братья, но в каждом из нас спит волк.

Vasko

9/20/2007 9:16 PM UTC

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to K0Lb@zzeR
Thank you for listening)

K0Lb@zzeR;113146

And VDV_forever asked me to evaluate the maps using two systems, and then we can choose which system will have a more subjective assessment.

Do you mean - objective?)

By the way, I still want to participate, maybe I can be added?

Александр Г.К.

9/21/2007 3:33 PM UTC

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Here is the latest version of the map... it's not great, but I'm sharing what I've actually finished... :-\ that is, the upper part... :( The flu was the final straw... Sigh... :(

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Эй, ты, простой смертный, хошь стать Хранителем Силы?))) :smile49: Ты уверен, что знаешь, в чем Сила?

Член Potter's Army
Это безумие!

Ушел в Тень... Надолго...

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Александр Г.К.

9/21/2007 3:36 PM UTC

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P.S.: I've had a fever for two weeks now, so I highly doubt I'll have the strength and time to implement the entire map... so for now, the map will look like this... :(

lankwe

9/25/2007 9:29 AM UTC

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Maybe it's been mentioned somewhere already, but could you please tell me where I can find a list of forum users' nicknames? Besides post #25, because I don't need that many.

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vbn

9/25/2007 9:54 AM UTC

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Here is the list of forum users: list of forum usernames

Клан Homo homini

Charity suffereth long, and is kind; charity envieth not; charity vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up,
Doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil;
Rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth;
Beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things. Charity never faileth...

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K0Lb@zzeR

9/26/2007 12:00 PM UTC

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Ley;113311

K0Lb@zzeR, answer post #183, even I am curious... :)

No, remakes are not allowed because it violates the rules. The map idea belongs to another mapmaker, therefore the map will initially be yours.

Sincerely, K0Lb@zzeR.