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In reply to Vinceras
#77
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Vinceras
In my opinion, rebuilding the library is overpowered and should be banned.
I'll repeat the check questions about the overpowered feature. With the library rebuild, will the Tower enter the top 3 cities? Yes or No? Will it enter the top 2? Yes or No?
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#78
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Yes, playing with random heroes – at first glance, an unexpected but interesting idea. Very radical, but too early to dismiss it.
With the caveat that against Conflux on templates where it plays random by the rules, one will be able to choose.
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#79
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Al Feyn
With the amendment that against Conflux on templates where it plays randomly by the rules, you will be able to choose.
And in this case, what makes Conflux better than Necropolis, for example?
And if we're fixing Necropolis too, then why aren't we touching the Champion's Dungeon?
It seems to me that this amendment is unnecessary.
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Hv Rules.
2.8. Castle restrictions.
2.8.1. ...
When playing as Conflux, the starting hero is chosen randomly when the map is generated.
2.8.2. ...
When playing as Necropolis, it is forbidden to choose Galtran as the starting hero.

Currently, Conflux plays with random heroes (except Jebus). If we introduce a rule that everyone plays with random heroes, the first thing we do with this move is to strengthen Conflux relative to everyone else. And quite significantly.
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Yeah, I'm looking at the last three favorite factions, and the Conflux is really outstanding, significantly stronger than the others.
We could, of course, look at another Necropolis/Dungeon series, but I'd like to see a wider selection of castles in the later stages.
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Can they allow favorite units to pass without going through Necropolis-themed dungeons?
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korovka1987
Yeah, I'm looking at the last three favorites, and the Conflux faction is really outstanding, significantly stronger than the others.
I understand that you want to make a nice statement, but could you please provide more details?
How many top players played with the Conflux, and how many played with the Dungeon and Necropolis factions? And what were the results? At first glance, I don't see anything particularly wrong with the Conflux.
In the previous Favorites, only one top player used the Conflux – Antipleer. Joker withdrew. A whole group of top players used the Dungeon and Necropolis factions. Antipleer lost in the 1/4 finals to Dave (2:1, note that it wasn't 2:0), Dave, who 1) is, in my opinion, a top-1 player (based on the tournament ranking) and 2) won that tournament.
In the losers' bracket, Antipleer was completely defeated by Reddi. They didn't even play – they flipped a coin.
I didn't watch any further. I'd rather wait for a more in-depth analysis from you.
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#84
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in my opinion, a random starting position will make Necropolis an average faction.
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#85
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Nooo, anything but random heroes. I really wanted to finally play as the Stronghold. :( If such a drastic decision is made (please don't!), at least leave the option to change the castle selection before the tournament begins. Otherwise, I might choose the Stronghold 50% of the time just because it's my favorite, and the other 50% might not be enough to compete against the boring, dark, and generic Necropolis, you know what I mean.
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MicroElf
If such a radical decision is made (please don't!),
The chances are slim right now. To make such a decision, I would need to find a group of strong players who are actually going to participate in the tournament, talk to them, and they need to seriously consider it and say something meaningful. Based on the conversations in this thread with the five people who dropped by, or based on our ideas about balance with Korovka (and even with Kaliban :smile41: ), such a change will not be made. :D
And we shouldn't forget that balance, besides being a difficult-to-grasp concept, is secondary in Favorites. Even I, for example, choose not only a town for this tournament, but specifically my favorite hero as a starter, with whom I have some kind of connection, and this is not necessarily the best starter even in that town. And those who blow even this chance to have fun for the sake of "victories" are only punishing themselves – depriving themselves of simple joys in life.
The ideal victory in this tournament is not picking Nekron and steamrolling through the bracket with a tank.
Everyone will forget about the Necromancer's victory even before it happens. But FTS winning with Anya is a story, it's a success.
so at least leave the option to change the town selection before the tournament starts
You can change the town before the registration closes (by editing your post with the tournament application).
There is no such prohibition written or implied anywhere.

And in general, as far as I'm concerned, 80% of what's happening in this thread is, as the classic said, "the air of freedom has tickled their behinds." But there is already some concrete benefit.
This is simply my approach – it's better to have many discussions, including those that lead nowhere, and including those that will actually be useful in this tournament, than to have no discussions at all or to have them suppressed in the style of "if you don't like it, do it yourself." I'm not criticizing other approaches now, I'm just explaining what's happening here. If an idea is interesting, it's just an interesting idea in itself; it still needs to be argued and studied before it is applied. And with the argumentation, as a rule, there are big difficulties.
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For the Tower, a rebuild is a must; a random hero would be interesting, and a tournament about the Favorite City would be great. And there's not much point in nerfing Flax, considering his successes in recent years. And we could add Tanta to the ban list, along with Gosha.
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Redwhait
...a random hero would be interesting, as would a tournament about the Favorite City. And there's not much point in nerfing Flax, considering his successes in recent years. And we could add Tanta to the ban list, along with Gosha.

For many, the choice of a favorite city is inextricably linked to their favorite hero. So, in my opinion, that would be wrong.

But when, for example, Necropolis faces Necropolis, that really is a problem. For now, it's difficult for me to say what would be a fair trade for a hero in that situation (it might even make sense to agree on starting with Tanta and Galtran).
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Sir Davos Seaworth
For many, the choice of their favorite city is inextricably linked to their favorite hero. So, in my opinion, it would be wrong to do that.

But when, for example, a Necromancer faces another Necromancer, that's a real problem. For now, it's difficult for me to say what would be a fair trade for the hero (it might even make sense to agree on starting with Tant-Ghal).
Already strong cities like Necropolis and Rampart are further enhanced by very overpowered heroes. In weaker cities like Swamp, Citadel, and Inferno, I don't think there's a significant difference in who you start with. Not only can Tazar be effective, but there are plenty of other strong warriors (just like in Citadel) that aren't difficult to find on restarts. In other words, the power gap between cities will decrease if, for example, Geon appears for Rampart and some hero appears in Citadel, Swamp, or Inferno, rather than if Shakti or Gunnar were the starting heroes.
And Tanta should have been banned from selection a long time ago.
From a balance perspective, starting with random heroes looks interesting (although not without some randomness). And as Reddy said, this is a tournament of favorite castles, not heroes.
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+ to a random hero (balance, variety)
+ to banning Tanta if the hero can be chosen (he's overpowered, some consider him stronger than Goshi)
+ to restructuring the library (if the tower is captured by someone on the surface, it's the most obvious town to take back. Placing a guardian there is a big risk of losing it).
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#91
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Why can't you choose a hero for Conflux besides Luna? Aren't Grindan or Moner in week 1 any more imbalanced than a Miner with 3 stacks, or not? Again, you still need to know how to play Luna.
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