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I suggest moving all posts related to hero digging for Heroes 3 to this thread. Why? I still can't get it to run on my computer – I've already downloaded a bunch of versions, and it doesn't work :( I'm digging manually – my hands are already sore :) And I also have a question about digging heroes. Let's say I'm digging with a hero digger or manually, I dig for a day or two, and there's absolutely nothing of what I need? How do players generally determine whether it's worth digging for the hero they have in mind, or is it pointless?
P.S. Why am I suggesting this thread in this section? Because hero diggers are probably mainly used by offline players. I also suggest moving all threads about ballista killing to here (in the offline section).
DmitriyAS
18 years ago
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Open the map using a cheat and see if your shy friend pops out of the foreign city. :) For good measure, you can also give the foreigners some money.
Of course, take the time to check in the editor – maybe this is the work of an evil creator...
Open the map using a cheat and see if your shy friend pops out of a foreign city. :) For good measure, you can also give the foreigners some money.
Of course, take the time to check in the editor – what if this is the work of an evil creator...?
Regarding the editor, that was clear. Regarding the fact that the shy friend is hiding in the tavern of the enemy's Fortress, vbn suggested this to me earlier. But only now am I wondering how to quickly check this?? Your advice to endlessly cycle through turns (or is it enough to cycle through only a week) and watch what the computer sends out from there?? If nothing comes out of there in a week, then what? In my opinion, I think the masters know a more reliable method of checking – that is, scanning the save (this is no different from scouting using cheats). I think you can look in the save to see what the computers have in their taverns??? I just don't know how to do this yet? But I think such endeavors are not hopeless :) And surely someone knows how to do this :)
DmitriyAS
18 years ago
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Usually, both heroes, who start with a charged army, are kicked out of the city within 2-3 days. As long as they have enough money.
Usually, the computer kicks out both heroes, who start with a charged army, from the city within 2-3 days. As long as there is enough money.
:) It's an XL map, and the computer has several heroes - there's a hero limit. I need to dig up a weak hero - how can I be sure that I can do it in principle? Should I spend days running the "digger" hero, and if it doesn't even work, should I just use a shovel like a mill? :) So, what can you tell me about scanning the save file? After all, it must contain information about the heroes that the computer has in its taverns.
And why are you so fixated on those two poor heroes sitting in the tavern?
Do you assume that the one you need is actually there?
To see these two heroes, you can load a game save,
changing your color to the color of the AI player
(if, of course, the map allows for this).
Well, in that case, there's one foolproof option:
recruit all possible heroes until you're exhausted,
and as a result, by the method of elimination, it will become clear
which heroes are present in the tavern of your opponent.
That's exactly what I used to do.
It takes about 2 hours, and all the heroes will be recruited! :smile21:
Well, in that case, there's one foolproof option: recruit all possible heroes until you're exhausted, and as a result, through the process of elimination, it will become clear which heroes are present in the opponent's tavern.
That's exactly what I used to do. It takes about 2 hours, and all the heroes will be recruited! :smile21:
He'll rub both hands and his left leg raw down to the bone – that recruiting method just doesn't work.
The "dig up all possible heroes until you're exhausted" operation is performed without the help of Hero Digger.
So, the first 100-120 heroes are dug up with almost no repetitions. Then, about 30 heroes are dug up, skipping one after another. And you'll have to put in a little more effort with the remaining ten or so heroes. But all of this is done without the help of Hero Digger, in a maximum of 2 hours.
Operation "dig up as many heroes as possible until you're exhausted" is done without the help of Hero Digger.
So, the first 100-120 heroes are dug up with almost no repetitions. Then, about 30 heroes are dug up, skipping one after another. And you'll have to put in a little more effort to find the remaining ten or so heroes. But all of this is done without the help of Hero Digger, 2 hours max.
If I didn't know what this was, I would say IronAxe - go for it. But the harsh truth is that after 40-50 heroes, the tavern starts showing the faces of the heroes you've already dug up, plus you lose concentration, and something starts to feel off... And you also need to keep a "hero digging log," so to speak, for the sake of order. Moreover, some heroes just don't want to appear, even though they're not used anywhere. I understand that you're relying on personal experience, but we're not amateurs either - 3.5-4 hours, no less. I doubt anyone will want to repeat such feats, but as they say, the ends justify the means.
Kamikaze
18 years ago
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After reading the last two posts, you start to understand why vbn and Dmitry_AS are in the top two positions in the Heroes of Might and Magic III ranking.
If I didn't know what it was, I would say IronAxe - go for it. But the harsh truth is that after 40-50 heroes in the tavern, you start seeing the annoying faces of heroes you've already recruited, plus you lose focus, and something seems to be happening from below... And you also need to keep a "log of hero recruitment," so to speak, for the sake of order. Moreover, some heroes simply don't want to appear, even though they are not used anywhere.
Therefore, it may happen that the hero recruiter won't find the hero you need, even though he is not used anywhere. Why?Dmitry_A_S;112435
I understand that you are relying on personal experience, but we, too, are not "amateurs" - 3.5-4 hours, no less. I doubt anyone would want to repeat such feats, but as they say, the end justifies the means.
The point is that I was digging for TWO days :) and only then I asked myself this question, which I raised in the topic. So, your record for manual digging has been broken ;) However, the result is zero. More precisely, I didn't get the hero I needed and noticed that many heroes didn't appear at all (much more than the two that could be hiding in the enemy tavern) - can anyone explain why? So, I am more inclined to agree with Dmitry AC than with vbn, with equal respect for both ;) By the way, using HexEdit, I found out who is in the tavern of the computer :) Now I know the ID in hexadecimal code of all the heroes in the third game :) I told you it was possible - after all, the hero recruiter program works for many people :)
After reading the last two posts, you start to understand why vbn and Dmitry_AS are in the top two positions in the ranking for Heroes 3 ;)
But now, for some reason, everyone has suddenly lost interest in this very interesting topic. And the question still remains. I haven't been able to find the hero for three days now. At the same time, I know for sure that he is not among the heroes that the computer has bought, he is not in the computer's tavern, and of course, I don't have him either. In the map editor, he is allowed, and I saw him, but on a different week - a little earlier. But on that week, I didn't need him, and I didn't have the money for him. And now I've been digging for three days - he's nowhere to be found. Can anyone give a definitive answer to the question - can I dig him up at all, sometime, but specifically on this game week, if I don't give up and keep digging ?????? Or are there other unknown reasons (major circumstances) why a hero cannot be dug up ???
Yes, but somehow everyone suddenly lost interest in this very interesting topic. And yet, the question remains. I haven't been able to find the hero for three days now. At the same time, I am absolutely sure that he is not among the heroes bought by the computer, he is not in the tavern of the computer, and of course, I don't have him either. He is allowed in the map editor, and I saw him, but in a different week - a little earlier. But that week, I didn't need him, and I didn't have the funds for him. And now I've been digging for three days - he's nowhere to be found. Can anyone give a definitive answer to the question - can I, in principle, find him at all, sometime during this game week, if I don't give up and keep digging???? Or are there other unknown reasons (major circumstances) why a hero cannot be found?
Personally, I can only advise you to dig manually - I have never had to dig for a hero (that is available) for more than 5-8 hours (and that's the maximum, usually it takes an hour or two). And, to be honest, I still dig manually... At the same time, there are, of course, some nuances...
