Which faction do you like the most in Heroes of Might and Magic IV? — General

Драккошка

18 years ago

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KENNU;109567

And if we judge by the stats, only Order is stronger than Life, and only Barbarian is weaker than Nature. Although the Nature Castle is my second favorite faction, I think it's noticeably weaker than the others (unlike the incredibly powerful Rampart, which is in the top three), although maybe it's just my lack of skill =)))

Well, I wouldn't say that! What about the Mantises? What about the Elementals?! (which, by the way, can be hired in the Castle, unlike similar creatures of other factions) What about magic, against which no creature can stand? What about the Dread Knights with their lightning and Confusion? What about the Phoenixes with their resurrection? No, Nature is no worse than other factions. And what it lacks in quality, it makes up for in the quantity of summoned creatures, against which only Order with its Banish can cope:smile14:
And I don't like the appearance of the castles in 4 at all:( All the buildings in the castles of different factions are in the same places:( And the appearance of the castle depends on the type of terrain:( This is realistic, I don't argue, but I don't like it:( In my opinion, the atmosphere of the castle is only maintained by the music (which is really very beautiful for all factions):( I think I've already written about this somewhere. Sorry for the off-topic

Zybr

18 years ago

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In terms of stats, Life isn't particularly strong; it's saved by spells and tactics, but that's a different matter. Based on the stats (if I understand Kennu correctly), Barbarians and Necropolis are the strongest. Necropolis has very strong Dragons, Vampires, and poisonous creatures, as well as skeletons, especially against archers, and Cerberuses are quite tough. In general, races where magic supports the army tend to have weaker armies... Chaos also has a strong army, but magic doesn't help the units much (it's not meant to). By the way, this is a big plus of the fourth game, as I've already said, everything depends only on the player's skill and luck with artifacts.
P.S. I really like Haven now; it's the most versatile faction, although the warriors themselves are quite weak (even the Djinns are only strong because of their magic; in close combat, a level 2 unit can defeat them).

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M@rkeL

18 years ago

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Elves are pretty good. Their elementals, or whatever they are, are some of the coolest creatures on Axoth (in Heroes).

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Smersh;109692

I like Chaos ;) It's a shame that there's no Chaos in Heroes V anymore, only those popular dark elves...

Haven't you heard that the last add-on will be released soon, featuring Orcs (Chaos, Barbarians, Stronghold - call it what you want).

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OptiMAL

18 years ago

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I think Haven is quite easy to play. It's not very interesting (that's just my opinion). I prefer factions that need to win through cunning (like Sylvan, for example). Although some might say that Chaos and Haven would tear Sylvan apart... So, playing as Sylvan would be more interesting against these factions. There's an incentive to win, to show those braggarts who's boss and enjoy the victory.

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Arandor

18 years ago

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M@rkeL;110219

Elves are pretty good. Their elementals, or whatever they are, are some of the coolest creatures on Axoth (in Heroes).

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And haven't you heard that the last add-on will be released soon, featuring Orcs (Chaos, Barbarians, Stronghold - call it what you want).

Hehe, the Orcs in the 5th game and Chaos from the 4th are completely different factions, even though there are Orcs in both. These factions are not similar at all.

Пандора

18 years ago

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I think Haven is quite easy to play.

I don't have that impression... There are many problems with Haven. It's actually easiest to play as Necropolis, though. Sylvan is also...

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OptiMAL

18 years ago

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Pandora;111401

I don't have that impression... Haven has many problems. It's easiest to play as Necropolis, after all. Sylvan is also...

What about Haven's spells? What about the Djinns?:D
No, it's easy to defeat neutrals with this faction. You don't need to think much: just use magic and that's it.
But with infantry, you need to use your head).

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Zybr

18 years ago

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OptiMAL;111409

What about the spells of Haven? What about the Djinns?:D
No, this faction is easy to use against neutral creatures. You don't really need to think much: just use magic and that's it.
But with infantry, you need to use your brain)

Not always, you can encounter useless spells against neutral creatures, and besides, Haven has a hard time against Chaos Dragons or Goblins:)

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OptiMAL

18 years ago

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ZYbr;111418

Not always, you might encounter useless spells against neutral creatures, and besides, Haven struggles against Dungeon or Goblin factions:)

Well, I don't know about such cases... But you're right about Dungeon. However, Haven will be on the defensive side this time (if Dungeon is guarding the passage between players). As for useless spells, I don't even know any.

LeSHiJ-MaX

18 years ago

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If Chaos is playing against Haven, I can offer some advice on how to behave, but if it's the other way around, Haven against Chaos, then please help me. Because: 1. All Haven units are slow (in terms of movement on the map); 2. I play as the second player with Heroes and Dungeon, and I mainly try to level up anti-magic for both, what can Haven counter that with? 3. I think it's unfair that they weakened Haven and strengthened Life. P.S. I'm very interested in IronAxe's opinion. Sincerely, LeSHiJ-MaХ

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OptiMAL

18 years ago

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LeSHiJ-MaX;111438

They weakened Haven and strengthened Sylvan. I think it's unfair.

Unfair!? I disagree!
Is it fair to be able to teleport from a Castle using the "City Portal" spell? Is it fair to teleport any unit?
And what did they do with Sylvan? They just buffed the Crusaders and that's it.
Sincerely.

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LeSHiJ-MaX

18 years ago

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OptiMAL;111439

What did they do with life? They just buffed the Crusaders and that’s it.

Well, not exactly. If you want, I’ll try to find all the changes that increase Life, and in my opinion, these are the most significant changes in version 4, rather than changes affecting other factions.
P.S. It’s a pity that there are changes that weakened Chaos.

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OptiMAL

18 years ago

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LeSHiJ-MaX;111440

Well, why all of them? If you want, I'll try to find all the changes that increase Life, and in my opinion, these are the most significant changes in the 4th installment, rather than changes affecting other FACTIONS.
P.S. It's a pity that there are changes that weakened Chaos.

So, here are all the changes in Equilibris:)
http://equilibris.celestialheavens.com/rus/changes.html
And after you read about the Chaos units, I don't think you'll claim that Chaos was weakened :)

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Zybr

18 years ago

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Dear Leshy and Optimal. All of this is correct, but: 1) In the Life faction, they not only strengthened the Crusaders but also improved the "Resurrection" spell and moved "Guardian Angel" to the 4th level. They also strengthened the "Resurrection" skill, and, moreover, if you collect the Ankh of Life (a cross-like artifact) and the Staff of Saint Reinan, 100% of fallen troops are resurrected after the battle! - This is a significant enhancement, you must agree. 2) Haven was both strengthened and weakened. That is, against Chaos, Haven has become more combat-ready, because now only the Castle is needed to build Titans, which has become cheaper, and Nagas have been given a triple attack; of course, Djinns still remain a very useful unit, at least for clearing the map, but also... another good point is that they moved "Blind," "Phantom," to the third level. 3) 2 Leshy, Haven's units are not slow; Djinns + Dragon-Golems + the hero have a very fast movement speed.

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LeSHiJ-MaX

18 years ago

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ZYbr;111483

For Haven, the units aren't slow; the Djinn, Dragons, and Golems, along with the hero, have very fast movement speed.

It all depends on what speed is considered good. If you think that a speed of 24 for a Djinn is good, then that's true for you. Dragons and Golems are among the slowest level 4 creatures (I didn't say the slowest), and without Djinn, they are very weak (let's not bring up examples with neutral creatures), so my statements are not unfounded.
P.S. All of the above applies to playing against a human.

Sincerely, LeSHiJ-MaX