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#380
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South Korea – Germany 0:3
Mexico – Sweden 1:1
Serbia – Brazil 1:1
Switzerland – Costa Rica 1:0
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South Korea – Germany 0-3
Mexico – Sweden 1-0
Serbia – Brazil 0-2
Switzerland – Costa Rica 1-0

I copied everything from Antal, although my gut feeling (3 accurate shots in the last round) tells me I should be copying from Yara.
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Roger-ua

I copied everything from Antal, although my gut feeling (3 accurate shots in the previous round) tells me I should be copying from Yara.

It's optimal to copy from different players based on the forecast :D
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South Korea – Germany 1:3
Mexico – Sweden 1:2
Serbia – Brazil 1:0
Switzerland – Costa Rica 2:0
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South Korea – Germany 0-2
Mexico – Sweden 1-0
Serbia – Brazil 0-2
Switzerland – Costa Rica 1-1
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Everyone is silent, and I don't understand, regarding the playoffs:
Should the score be shown for the main time, or all together with extra time and penalties?

I've already suggested that if you guess separately for the main time,
it makes sense to give extra points for guessing extra time and/or penalties.

However, if you need to state the final score in the prediction after the match, then the suggestion is withdrawn.

I believe that only the final score is taken into account (including extra time, if any). Post-match penalties are not considered.
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For example, Nzol suggested the following: a system where points are awarded for the main time, just like in the group stage, and an additional point is added for each team that advances. This wouldn't require overly complicated calculations. In example 1, if someone bet on a team to win, but the main time ends in a draw, we give them the opportunity to "root" for the team until the end, with the chance to earn 1 point. In example 2, if someone bet on a draw in the main time, that prediction seems somewhat incomplete, and again, there's little point in the predictor "rooting" for the team any further. And of course, this additional point would add more dynamism to the standings and create additional opportunities for trailing teams to reduce the gap. Since predictions should be more complex in the later stages of the tournament, this seems logical. I would personally suggest a system where, when predicting a draw, the outcome in extra time is also specified, with an additional point. For example, a prediction: Team 1 - Team 2 (1-1, Team 1 wins in extra time or Team 1 wins on penalties). The player receives 2 or 3 points for the outcome of the main time, plus a point for correctly predicting the outcome of extra time. Which option should we take, or are there other options?
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Iamsamstan

In example 1, if a person bet on a team to win, and the main time ends in a draw, we give them the opportunity to "cheer" until the end with the possibility of earning 1 point.
Example 2, if a person bet on a draw in the main time, then such a prediction looks somewhat incomplete, and again, there is little point in "cheering" further for the predictor.

1. In my opinion, the final result of the game should be taken into account - whether it was in the main time or extra time doesn't matter.
2. If a person bet on a draw, then they should receive 2 (or 3 points) if the match ends in a draw in extra time.
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South Korea - Germany 1:1 :D
Mexico - Sweden 1:2 :smile06:
Serbia - Brazil 2:2 :(
Switzerland - Costa Rica 1:1
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sir Davos Seaworth
1. In my opinion, the final result of the game should be taken into account, and whether it's in regular time or extra time doesn't matter.
2. If you bet on a draw, you'll get 2 (or 3) points if the match ends in a draw, even in extra time.

That's also a good approach.
The main thing, in my opinion, is that you can earn the same maximum number of points for a match, whether you bet on a win in regular time or a draw in regular time (or taking extra time into account).
And an additional point for a team advancing would give the prediction a sense of completeness.

Mexico - Sweden 2:2
South Korea - Germany 0:5
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sir Davos Seaworth
1. In my opinion, the final result of the game should be taken into account, regardless of whether it was in regular time or extra time.
2. If I bet on a draw, I will receive 2 (or 3) points if the match ends in a draw, even in extra time.
So, for example, if I bet on a score of 2-1, the regular time ends 1-1, and in extra time it becomes 2-1, will I get 3 points?
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Iamsamstan
So, for example, if I bet on a 2-1 score, the main time ends 1-1, and in extra time it becomes 2-1, do I get 3 points?
That's absolutely correct. And there's no need for any complications or redundancy. The match ended 2:1.

As for penalties, they are called post-match penalties. And we make predictions for matches.
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sir Davos Seaworth


and regarding penalty shootouts – they are called POST-match shootouts. And we give predictions for the MATCHES.

there's a catch here.
when the playoff stage begins, we will predict not only the matches but also who will advance.
Let's consider the scenario of predicting the result according to your suggestion (within 120 game minutes)
In the Uruguay-Portugal match, Vasya bet on a 2:1 victory for Uruguay, and Petya, who supports Portugal, bet on a draw. The match ends 1:1, and Uruguay advances after a penalty shootout.
As a result, Petya receives his 3 (or 2) points, even though his team didn't advance, while Vasya, who supported the winning team, gets nothing. We need to somehow compensate for this with points for correctly predicting which team will advance.
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Nzol
there's a catch here.

In the Uruguay-Portugal match, Vasya bet on a 2:1 score in favor of Uruguay, and Petya, who supports Portugal, bet on a draw. The match ends 1:1, and Uruguay wins on penalties.
As a result, Petya gets his 3 (or 2) points, even though his team didn't advance, while Vasya, who supported the winning team, gets nothing.

In my opinion, this would still be fairer than if Vasya, who didn't even guess the outcome of the match, received the same number of points, or even more, as Petya. Penalties are basically a lottery; they are held because it's much more interesting for the audience than flipping a coin.
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Sir Davos Seaworth
In my opinion, this would still be fairer than if Vasya, who didn't even guess the outcome of the match, received the same number of points, or even more, as Petya. Penalties are essentially a lottery; they are held because it's much more interesting for the audience than flipping a coin.

Why invent something I didn't suggest?
According to my proposal, Vasya will only receive 1 point for progressing past Uruguay, not "2-3 or even more than Petya."

As for the penalty shootout being a lottery, that's just a figurative comparison. It's still not completely random. Compared to regular time, penalties are like poker versus chess. But who said there aren't strong and weak players in poker? The strongest team simply doesn't have a total advantage, but it still exists.