Evaluating archers. — Polls

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Ley

19 years ago

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ewgeniy;108536

I was just talking about them... These are hippos...

No, Zhenya, you're wrong: the hippo's damage is 30-50; the titan's damage is 40-60. That's how it is. :)

ewgeniy;108536

Do you build Cyclops first? I build monsters, then upgrade them, and then build Cyclops...

Well, you just said that it's better to upgrade monsters than to build Cyclops, but we were only talking about 20 crystals, not 30, I just corrected you.

ewgeniy;108536

I don't know, I was at their place, they still don't shoot:D :D :D

No, I was going hunting with them once - they shoot, and how! - two guides and a couple of pines :D

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ewgeniy

19 years ago

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Ley;108541

No, you're wrong: the hippogryph deals 30-50 damage; the titan deals 40-60 damage. That's the deal :)

Do you even believe that yourself? First of all, harpies remove 80% of defense, and that's a lot; the stronger the unit, the more it matters. And titans? 40-60?
60 is only if you're right next to them, and they shoot weakly... Forget about them:D

Ley;108541

You just said that it's better to upgrade harpies than to build cyclops, but we were only talking about 20 crystals, not 30; I just corrected you.

That's how it is.
Well, I don't like cyclops either - 20 crystals - it's better to upgrade bears

Ley;108541

No, I was going to go hunting with them - they shoot, and they shoot well! - two rangers and a couple of dryads :D

Nothing to add...:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

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Ley

19 years ago

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ewgeniy;108549

Do you even believe that yourself? First of all, "Chud" removes 80% of defense, and that's a lot; the stronger the unit, the more it matters. And what about Titans? 40-60?
60 is only at close range, and they shoot weakly... Nah, forget them:D

I believe it. We weren't talking about their abilities, but since you're bringing it up again, here you go:D: "60 is only at close range" - and are you aware that Titans always have a direct shot with "Chud"? And I don't even see the point in discussing turn priority...

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ewgeniy

19 years ago

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Ley;108550

I believe it. We weren't talking about their abilities, but since you're bringing it up again, here you go :D: "60 is if you shoot at close range" - and are you aware that Titans always have a direct shot at creatures? And I don't even see the point in discussing turn priority...

Man, we're evaluating archers:D :D :D :D
I wasn't aware, I just prefer creatures, and that's it (Titans are bad:))
The only thing I like about them is the cost of the palace...

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Sting

18 years ago

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Titans are undoubtedly the strongest archers.
But I think Grand Elves are the best! They shoot twice, are not expensive, there are many of them, and with good luck, the damage increases many times over. Sometimes they can even shoot 4 times in one turn, all with good luck:cool:
The archers from the Castle are the Lesser Elves:D
Mages are also monsters, almost like Monks, and they save mana, but they are a bit expensive.
Goblins are also strong at the beginning.
So, according to my list:
1. Grand Elves
2. Archers
3. Mages
4. Goblins
And then come the Eyes from the Dungeon, Monks, Medusas, etc.
But the best are definitely the Elves:smile14:

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ewgeniy

18 years ago

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Sting;109219

The strongest archers, without a doubt, are the Titans.
But I think Grand Elves are the best! They shoot twice, they're not expensive, there are many of them, and with good luck, the damage increases many times over. Sometimes they even shoot 4 times in one turn, all with good luck:cool:
The archers from the Castle are the small elves:D
Mages are also monsters, almost like monks, and they save mana, but they are expensive.
Goblins are also strong at the beginning.
So, according to my list:
1. Grand Elves
2. Archers
3. Mages
4. Goblins
And then come the Imps from the Dungeon, monks, Medusas, etc.
But the best are the Elves, 100 percent:smile14:

Well, firstly, Titans don't have bows... they're not archers:p
Grand Elves are good, but have you ever tried playing with Dragons or Djinns?
Secondly, Imps are weak - a Lich will tear apart a monk, a Medusa, and an Elf...
And Mages? They are better than many archers...

Ley

18 years ago

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I'll second Sting, because I think that elves, while maybe not the strongest or with the best stats, are definitely among the most useful units, and few can argue with that. ;)
The only other faction that has earned such respect in my eyes is the Academy, and their archmages are definitely worth their level... :)

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ewgeniy

18 years ago

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Sting;109219

The strongest archers without a doubt are the Titans.

Ley;109296

I agree with Sting, because I think that elves, although they may not be the strongest in terms of power and stats, are definitely among the most useful, and few can argue with that ;)
The only ones who have also undoubtedly earned respect in my eyes are the archmages; they are definitely worth their level...:)

ewgeniy;108536

My top 3:
1) Snipers
2) Archmages
3) Grand Elves

offtopic:
Ley, don't you think that I'm not arguing about their usefulness...
I'm just supporting the elves, but snipers also deserve attention, or Sir Jell will come and give you a hard time for the disrespectful behavior towards the best of archers :) :) :) :)offtopic.

Ley

18 years ago

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2 ewgeniy: Well, you still have to look for snipers... ;), of course, they are quite the "guys," but you don't encounter them that often on the map :(

And Jelu is on vacation... Just don't you dare tell him that I wrote all this about snipers :)

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St.all.in

18 years ago

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In my opinion, the best archers are the Titans. They have the highest damage, cannot be blinded, and, if I'm not mistaken, they don't have any penalties in melee combat. Second place is shared by archmages and fanatics; they can be recruited in large numbers, and their bonuses are quite good (some reduce the cost of spells, others have no penalties in melee combat). Great Elves consistently hold third place. They are numerous and shoot twice, so their direct attack damage is significant. And their mirroring effect often exceeds all expectations.
Liches, no matter what, cannot be easily integrated into a Necropolis army, no matter how good they are. And Cyclops, as correctly noted, are too difficult to gather, and 20 crystals don't just lie around on the road.
If we consider neutral creatures, then, of course, archers should be replaced with snipers, and even better, hardened snipers (killing them in melee combat is not a pleasant task). Mages should be replaced with wizards. Fanatics should be replaced with war fanatics. But where do you get so many of them?

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Sting

18 years ago

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2 ewgeniy
I didn't take snipers and wizards into account because they asked to exclude them (message #1), that's one thing; I completed all the AB campaigns without any problems - that's another.
And thirdly, where will you encounter wizards and snipers on a simple map?! And I won't even mention Jela and the Dragon. :p
Elves rule!!!

Мечтатель

18 years ago

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I think that archers should be evaluated not by their level and strength, but by their accuracy. And in this case, the Great (Royal) Elves definitely rule, as they are accurate and shoot twice. Medusas generally shoot just to annoy. Shooting 4 times is simply to irritate the enemies. Titans should not be considered at all, as they are out of competition (the only shooting unit of level 7). And here is my rating: 1. Royal Elves 2. Archmages 3. Archers Of course, there are many caveats here. For example, Thunder Elementals are better than Archers, but I personally don't like the Conflux (no offense).

badping

18 years ago

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Do you think Titan and Evil Eye are worse than Gremlins? )) Strange taste.

MANTIKOra

18 years ago

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no, I can't, I really can't!!! I'll try now!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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1. Titan 2. Evil Eye 3. Snipers 4. Archmages 5. Royal Elves 6. Elves 7. Medusa 8. Magogs 9. Archers 10. Goblins