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It would be good to have a text field for entering reasons.
My reason is that I won't buy a monthly subscription; I want a lifetime one.
Once again. For the first month or two, I simply need to understand how many people are actually willing to pay. Because if, to exaggerate, there are only three such people,
one of whom can play at 6 a.m., another at 12 p.m., and the third at 10 p.m., then it is obvious that there will be no point in having a lobby, and even though these three are willing to pay, they will not do so for obvious reasons. I'm not even sure if it will be interesting and comfortable for subscribers if there are only 100 people in total, at least for subscribers – newcomers without HW.
I will definitely make a yearly subscription if 100 people join in the first month.

I cannot make a lifetime subscription. I simply can't imagine what price I should set. Although there is an option that is not difficult to come to: 3.5 million should be divided by the number of people willing to buy a "lifetime" subscription.
A very important point, which apparently is not obvious to some:
a monthly/yearly subscription will stimulate and force me to:
1. try to provide the service without interruptions. 2. improve the quality of the service, develop the service in the hope of a greater return in the next month/year, or out of fear of losing what was in previous periods. If I get everything at once, then nothing will motivate me anymore, because no matter how hard I try, I won't be able to get more from you. I could just not care at all.

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For now, the dynamics of responses to the survey suggest that the lobby will not close on May 7 and will continue to operate. Let's see how people will vote with their money in reality...

Although the start will not be very indicative, because people definitely play (in general and in Heroes in particular) less in spring and summer than in autumn and winter.
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You've confused the concepts of a PRODUCT and a SERVICE.
A product can be paid for once and taken away forever (and even then it might eventually break, and you'll go buy a new one).
Services are paid for over and over again in each specific instance of providing the service.
Internet, hair salons, booster rides at an amusement park, utilities (gas, water, heat). You can argue about prices, but the nature of a service and a product is different.
Or try to come up with what the price of a "lifetime subscription" for the lobby should be and why. And what will you do then if only you pay it, others don't give a damn even about the monthly one, and baratorch also gives up on the whole project. These are unsolvable issues in the case of a service.
As far as I remember the chronology, HotA first had OX, and only then did the lobby appear. That is, lobbies for OX are not fundamentally important. The lobby isn't critical for me; playing via Hamachi is fine too. If there were something like a "key" as in Warcraft/Diablo that would allow one to host themselves with OX, for example, while others couldn't (because they didn't pay) — I would be satisfied with that. That's why I believe the possibility of purchase exists. Correct me if I'm wrong, but so far logic suggests it is so.

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I cannot make a lifetime subscription. I simply don't imagine what price tag I should set. Although there is an option that is easy to arrive at: 3,5 million must be divided by the number of people ready to buy a "lifetime" subscription.
Thank you for the answer, I'll keep it in mind. I will hope that after paying for a few months, some number of people will eventually come to the same idea regarding their willingness to shell out a sufficient amount once. My apologies for pestering; I just wanted to finally see an answer to my question. I am satisfied with the answer.
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Baratoch. What about making paid cosmetic items that don't affect the gameplay? Can't you create new casting animations, new hero appearances, and so on? It's a simple way to keep the player base from shrinking and encourage people to spend money.
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Yegor Korobeynikov
Baratoch. What about making paid cosmetic items that don't affect gameplay? Can't you create new casting animations, new hero appearances, and so on? It's a simple way to keep the player base from shrinking and encourage people to spend money.
I've already suggested adding new skins for Hydras before :D
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My reason is that I won't buy a monthly subscription; I want a lifetime one.
baratorch
1. I already wrote that it's 3.5 million rubles.
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2. Improve the quality of the service, develop the service in the hope of getting a better return in the next month/year, or out of fear of losing what was achieved in previous periods. If I get everything at once, then nothing will motivate me anymore, because no matter how hard I try, I won't be able to get anything more from you. I might as well give up.

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I would like to know how feasible it is to create a decent observer mod for Heroes, so that you don't have to jump between TV channels and similar things, and perhaps even something similar to Dota, where there is an option to check a box to make the game open for viewing or password-protected for the possibility of joining to watch.
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I would like to know how feasible it is to create a decent observer mod for Heroes.
I'm not an expert, but it seems to me that this would require completely reworking the entire game.
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Yegor Korobeynikov
Baratoch. What about making paid cosmetic items that don't affect gameplay? Can't you create new casting animations, new hero appearances, and so on? It's a simple way to keep the player base from shrinking and encourage people to spend money.
If this is actually feasible with minimal time investment, it could significantly boost revenue... of course, with high-quality and visually appealing updates. Although, even as I write this, I realize that it's not easy to do, even for a single screen, let alone making it visible to the opponent.
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Was the online lobby lagging today? It said I left the game, but my internet connection was stable, and it showed only 1 person in the lobby, with no player list.
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Did the lobby lag today? It said I left the game, but my internet didn't drop, and it says there's 1 person online in the lobby, but there's no player list.
The lobby didn't lag.
For a disconnect, the internet doesn't necessarily have to drop. It's just that the connection between you and the server was lost for a critically long time. Judging by the server logs, the problem is on your side.

For example, if I'm at home, 2 meters from the router, with 1 wall in between, I don't have disconnects from the lobby. If I'm 5 meters away, with 3 walls in between, then I disconnect periodically.

When disconnecting, the reconnect mechanism usually works. But this time it didn't work (in this case, the player sees a message that they left the game themselves). The fact that it then showed 1 person online is a bug. This bug may be due to problems in the client code, or it may again be due to a poor connection. With such a bug, it is better to restart the game.

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if this is really feasible with not too much time investment, then it could quite noticeably replenish the wallet... naturally, with a high-quality and beautiful update... although, as I write this, I'm thinking that it's not easy to do even in one screen, let alone have the opponent see it.
Making it so that your unique skin/animation is visible to the opponent is not difficult at all. It's difficult to draw this skin/animation. I definitely won't be drawing. I'm unlikely to have anything to pay an artist with.
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Suggest offering 5% of the revenue from skins to the artists who created them; maybe that will attract some enthusiasts. Or, as a last resort, take something beautiful from Vogue; I doubt they'll claim copyright.
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The online lobby wasn't lagging.
Thanks for the reply, this is the first time I've encountered this, I play often and didn't know what to think. It seems I had a brief disconnection.
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We played a week or two ago and made a save. Now we're trying to load it, and there's no timer! It's been removed! We don't know how to get it back. A new game is created with a timer, and everything is fine.
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