Posts from An attempt to organize a team tournament between countries!

My thoughts:

- Let's call the tournament "World War III" and divide it into two blocks, let's say, Blue and Red!
On one side - Europe (we can assign Ukrainians to help them), on the other - the former republics of the USSR, and we can also have the Chinese on our side.

- Play one game per day, with mandatory two-way streaming (i.e., only recruit those who are willing to stream with at least audio commentary).

- We can include a "hot swap" rule (create a table of 1st, 2nd, etc. reserve players) to ensure that the evening match takes place 100% of the time.

This could be a good idea for one of the upcoming tournaments, with some adjustments. In this case, we will try to form specific teams – each team will compete on its own. But if there are any problems, then we will think about something else.

If it were to happen in a month or two, I would participate representing Ukraine, but not right now.

My thoughts:

- Name the tournament "World War 3" and divide it into two blocks, let's say, Blue and Red!
On one side - Europe (you can assign Ukrainians to help them), on the other - the former republics of the USSR, you can also add the Chinese to our side.

- Play one game per day, with mandatory two-way streaming (i.e., only recruit those who are willing to stream with at least audio commentary).

- You can provide for a hot swap in the rules (create a table of 1st, 2nd, etc. replacement queues) so that the evening match takes place in 100% of cases.

I liked it.

So, here's an update. There's a high probability that the Czech team will participate in the tournament with a minimum of 3-6 players. I'm still checking on Slovakia. Considering that the tournament might become inter-portal, we'll probably need to simplify the rules or create a reasonably adequate mix. And since rule violations will be immediately visible, if they are significant, we might replay those matches. Technical results will only be awarded in extreme cases. We'll try to create an atmosphere of friendship and mutual concessions as much as possible. I have a rough idea of what to expect, but I still hope for a reasonable outcome. Thanks to Sticky for this portal.

I also found Chinese, Spanish, and German communities, but I haven't figured them out yet. I created a new thread in the Chinese community – I'm waiting for a response. I can't complete the registration on the German one – I keep getting an error. The work in this area is ongoing.

And since the tournament is likely to happen, I'll probably have to decline the offered job, unfortunately, and somehow manage my finances for the sake of the tournament. We'll see what happens after the tournament.

The Estonian team seems to have formed just now. I don't know how competitive they will be, but they have the desire. I suggested they join forces with Latvia, but they found 4 players within their own country.

Serbia has 3 players, but only 2 of them are actively playing. They are deciding whether they will play as a duo. In this case, we will allow one of them to play 2 out of 3 games if needed, or they will join another team.

The thread isn't popular in China. Herolwy is also silent. So, we probably shouldn't expect much. But if Herolwy gets in touch, I see another option: Herolwy and Dan_Choi could form an Asian team, with permission for one of them to play again in case of a 1-1 score.

I can't help but respect someone who won the "contribution" award, but do you really think that a sponsor can achieve "world peace" for 50-60 thousand rubles?

I can't help but respect a person who won the nomination "for contribution," but do you seriously think that a sponsor can achieve "world peace" for 50-60 thousand rubles?

Of course not. It's not about the money here. A large project means big problems. As usual, we'll try to do our best, and we'll see what happens. We'll address issues as they arise.

Gameplay is more important than tournaments in the game; I advise the author to reconsider.

Besides work, there's also the concept of "a man's word is his bond." You need to be able to stand by your words. Otherwise, how can you even respect yourself afterward? It would be inappropriate for me to suddenly shift a large portion of the work onto two assistants. Yes, it will be difficult, but it's not the first time. And considering that I plan to conclude my "heroic" endeavors this year (if nothing changes), I'll try to finish with dignity. And if I agree to the job, I'll have to end my activities even sooner. I will continue to work as a programmer in parallel, gradually. Of course, the amount of time I can dedicate to discussions, channels, and consultations for newcomers will decrease significantly. But that's just an unavoidable consequence...

The idea is interesting, but poorly feasible in terms of the final outcome. The main problem is that the level of play varies greatly from country to country. Let's not kid ourselves—everyone knows the favorites. In the vast majority of the planned national teams, aside from almost complete unknowns, even the "leaders" would look very pale compared to an average mid-tier player from HW, for example. This raises the question of the event's value. Watching, say, Lizard or FTS crush a player from the Limpopo team—dubious pleasure, I think. The process and result of such a game might even bring their opponent not joy from meeting legends, but mostly psychological trauma. And is there even joy in winning such a game? No offense to the organizer and sponsor, but there would certainly be no competitive element in such a show. Perhaps it's a matter of commerce, advertising, attracting a new audience for streams—but even here, the language barrier would seem an insurmountable obstacle.
P.S. Far more promising would be an online championship organized by Armageddets and the Sponsor (say, Eurasia)—with truly strong teams: Russia, Belarus, Ukraine—for objective reasons, invite Poles, possibly Hungarians, make one UAE (United Athletes of Europe) team. Each team of 4 people—the most worthy, selected by national community voting, team captain's decision, rating on HW—various options. A well-thought-out format, brevity, criteria for selection to the second tournament (depending on the first tournament, qualifiers, etc., etc.). The ambition, spectacle, and usefulness of such a format would be many times higher than the proposed option of gathering whoever and sitting them down to play something they don't know how to play. It's no wonder that the dads aren't even posting in this thread (Hell seems to be an exception), because... well, that's just how it is...

After a match in the Battle.net versus client, a Russian-speaking team has never won, even though they always considered themselves the favorites.

I agree (almost). 5 teams: Siberia, the rest of Russia, Ukraine, Belarus, and the rest of the world – that would be ideal.

Albertos, this is a show-tournament. It should be perceived as a show. It shouldn't be viewed as a real world championship. Nothing like that will even come close.

Regarding the level of the teams: let's take any sport and we'll see how the leaders crush the nobodies everywhere. But in any sport, there is an element of unpredictability. In Heroes, it's the layout that's drawn, and the ability or inability of specific players to play at the chosen time and date. In case of inability, another player must be called up to the national team. Either call another one at the start, and then when the leader is available, they finish the game. Or this other person plays the entire match.

Language is not a problem, in my opinion. For example, I browse foreign sites and forums on the Heroes theme without much trouble (the browser translates everything into Russian), and I communicate with foreign players—Google and Yandex translators help. There are even several foreign players on this portal. I repeat—the main thing is the desire of the players themselves.

Regarding the goals: first, the more hype we create around Heroes, the more people we can interest. Second, it's about attracting players from other countries to our portal, and our players to their portals. Show-tournaments are also an indicator of the popularity and extent of the distribution of Heroes worldwide. Since my activity is aimed at beginners, many are simply shocked when they hit the channel that people not only still play Heroes, but there are even tournaments, prize pools, and even tournament coverage, gaming portals, ratings, etc.

The players themselves can either just play for pleasure, regardless of who the opponent is, or play for money (as motivation). And viewers will be interested even by the mere fact of the hype, some kind of competition, etc. When visiting the streams of TOP players, we also often observe dull games, but sometimes the chat puts on a show, sometimes the commentator himself; it varies. Even gathering only TOP players doesn't guarantee that a show will result. It is always more interesting to watch a tournament completely from start to finish and root for specific players or teams than to just watch some highlights or listen to stories about tournaments.

Also, show-tournaments play a more important role than regular ones. Regular tournaments are created in a number of cases so that players have a place to play, Heroes doesn't die, and there is a constant community. After the tournament ends, it is remembered mainly by the players themselves and part of the audience, and then quickly forgotten. Only a text archive remains from it. If we take a show-tournament, there is a long-lasting memory of it for the players, the viewers, and for attracting new players; it's both "gaming water" and an introduction to players, judges, commentators, and so on. I would like other guys to also do show-tournaments with full coverage, but so far it's silence. Instead of all this red tape, I could simply observe everything from the sidelines and be happy. Essentially, Heroes channels pursued one of the goals—to attract not only viewers and sponsors, but the organizers themselves who would handle this. Moreover, a clear example was given that all of this can be organized even alone if one wishes.

After this tournament, any tournaments can be held in any formats. If I have the time and support from your side, I will even try to help with this. For now, I must fulfill my agreement with the sponsor. That's about it... By the way, since the money is not a small amount, a reliable person will be needed to hold this money. I will not hold it myself for two reasons: 1 - I am too unknown to be trusted, 2 - I am from Ukraine and there have already been problems with money transfers.

If nothing falls through, more than 10 teams should quite possibly work out. And this is without considering the division of Russia. But maybe some national teams will still drop out—let's not predict. Also, I remind you, there are only 2 applications from Russia (one from Siberia). It is not too late to try to assemble a national team of your own republic and play separately—increasing your chances of playing in the tournament. Because the team captain might not call you up to the national team during the tournament.

Currently intending to play in the tournament:
Russia
Ukraine
Belarus
Lithuania
Poland
Romania
Estonia
Czech Republic
Serbia

Questionable:
Hungary
China
Bulgaria
Moldova
Asia Team

And there is almost no hope for Germany, France, England, and the USA. But a small hope remains.

Siberia might be able to play in the tournament separately if there is an odd number of teams. Although maybe we'll make a world team from unused players or something like that...

To play for a particular national team, you must meet at least one of these criteria:
- Citizenship of that country (or republic within the country)
- Residence in that country
- Roots from that country (born there or parents from there, for example).

Specific players do not have to be declared for the tournament. But if a player is called up to a national team for a game, the other national team will no longer be able to play them. Therefore, you can either warn specific players in advance not to play for another national team, or the player must be declared in the tournament application (with the player's own consent).

Of course, that is entirely your own business; I merely offered my opinion as a hint on how to do it better. In my view, if you are going to make a show, it should be a real SHOW. No draft can help a nobody beat a TOP player, unless he gets a Jebus Cross that is 10 times more incredible. But then it is no longer a show. And as mentioned above, there are connection issues, rule differences... discussions about turn timers and autosaves in case of rule violations... ugh...
As I understand it, the sponsor is a person far removed from Heroes, possibly a beginner, simply realizing a dream-idea of gathering the whole world, without understanding how it will be organized and how it will look from the outside. As a potential viewer, I will answer right away — not good.
P.S. Sorry if I was being intrusive, good luck!

Thank you. Any constructive criticism is perfectly normal. That's what the topic was created for.

I'm not informed about the sponsor's skill level. I can't say anything about that. I know he plays in one of our Heroes chats, but how long he's been playing and at what level – I don't know. The fact that he wants to create the tournament of his dreams – yes, and he has the right to do so. It's his money, he provides it and says "I want it done this way" – on our end, we either say no and goodbye, or we take the money and do it the way he wants, but with adjustments (creating a perfect tournament is unrealistic).

If we don't count the Czech Republic team, the other countries are formed from players in this tournament, players who came from YouTube, Game Ranger, or those who returned after quitting. Therefore, for the majority, the HeroesWorld rules should be acceptable. From communication with the Czech Republic team, they are willing to try to adapt to our requirements and rules. I've sent them the rules. They will read our English-language version on the portal. If any misunderstandings arise, we'll resolve issues as they come up. Of course, there will be negativity, and unlike past tournaments, it won't be possible to hide it – since everything is planned to happen completely in real time. We'll try to anticipate certain moments, have some backup plans – but as practice shows, that still doesn't eliminate problems. So we expect problems – the question is only what kind.

If, to our surprise, China, France, or Germany – where different rules also apply – joins in, then we might consider a version with simplified rules for everyone or playing without rules (though we'll bring anarchy into the tournament anyway). Regarding templates, forming match formats, dates, times, and so on – we'll conduct polls across all teams and, based on the data obtained, create a list and regulations. Roughly speaking, the hassle will take about another 2 weeks. On one hand, we're waiting for responses from some teams; on the other hand, there's a lot of preparation required, both in graphic and technical terms, as well as assembling the entire team of streamers-commentators, judges, and so on. Again, it doesn't all depend solely on me. I can't overextend myself. Given my financial situation and capabilities – I've already overextended myself with the previous tournaments (which is why they turned out the way everyone knows they did).