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Is the tournament only for the best players?

The strongest players should represent the country or region, of course, although there may be disagreements about who is the strongest, but it certainly shouldn't be those players who are clearly weaker.

I would gladly participate from Peter (if my parents allow it) xD

1. Women's team. This is not discrimination, but rather the opposite. During streams, you often hear comments about how girls can't play and so on. Although we know of examples of good players among them who can beat many of us (Plus, I don't think it's a problem for girls and wives to play with advice from their husbands. But maybe we'll make a separate tournament on this topic later). Most viewers will support this team and help them. Plus, it will be an attraction for the tournament, regardless of the results, unlike other teams. But we may not even create it – it's just an option to increase the number of teams.

2. Tournament only for "dads"? The rules and format are being discussed. For now, we need to understand what the demand is and how many teams we can gather and with how many players. I see several options here:
a) For example, if we set a fixed number of players per team, we will most likely get a format with "dads" in large teams, as well as with players of different levels in those teams where there is no one else to choose from. This will create an imbalance in strength, but that's the case everywhere...
b) If we allow an unlimited number of participants and also schedule the time and day of the game between teams in advance, the situation will be somewhat different. The team captain will encourage those who are available on that specific date and time to play, and some or even all of the "dads" may drop out, and they will invite a less skilled player (but again, the team will provide advice and help as time allows).
c) If we cannot gather the number of teams that the sponsor wants, I will talk about organizing a team tournament based on the principle of "whoever wants to play with whom, they will team up." But here, too, the top players may team up and simply dominate the rest. But knowing the number of "dads," there is hope to gather at least 8-12 decent teams.

3. Each team will need a captain. And not the one who plays the best, but the one who is constantly in touch and can solve problems within the team.

4. Why SoD? I have been developing and popularizing this version for several years. The others are of little interest to me. Although I enjoy watching WoG. During this time, an audience of 2,500+ people has gathered, watching and loving the classic and official version. The sponsors are the subscribers who are also willing to develop it.

5. For now, all of this is just an attempt to gauge demand (and it is clear that there is demand). And to see how many teams and with how many players we can gather. Currently, the situation is as follows:
1) Siberia (4-5 people)
2) DPR (3 people)
3) Poland (3-4 people)

Gathering teams from Russia, Ukraine, and Belarus is not a problem at all. The only question is the strength of the team. There are plenty of players. We can recruit various teams on VK, YouTube, and through GameRanger, but we will face a number of rule violations, as not everyone plays according to the HotA rules. And holding a tournament without rules is also quite specific.

6. Due to the streaming of each game, there will be a mandatory rule such as "For suspicious behavior on the adventure map and in battles, a technical defeat may be awarded." Without this rule, it is difficult to make decisions in such controversial situations due to fan streaming or one of the team's players. Especially among those unknown to the community.

7. There is also an idea to apply judges to each game for the first time. Invite 3 judges to each game. And if the game drags on for too long or it is already clear that it will be a one-sided beating, the judges can stop the game. This will save everyone time.

Also, among the Germans, English, and other remote teams, there are many guys from the CIS who simply live and play there.

In moments like these, you think: "How good it is that I'm from Ukraine."

1. Female team. This isn't discrimination, but rather the opposite. You often hear on streams that girls can't play and things like that.

So, are you trying to confirm this opinion by giving a separate quota to girls?

In general, if you want to make a tournament spectacular and interesting, rather than a drawn-out, year-long joke that gets abandoned, you should allow a maximum of 3-4 people per team from each country. Another question is how to decide who will represent the country, and this can be resolved by holding preliminary qualifying rounds beforehand, which would be a pleasure for everyone who wants to try their hand, and also allow us to see a team of female players if one can be assembled (which I personally doubt, unless we simulate an international country of "girl-land"). Furthermore, the more people involved, the fewer streams and high-quality content there will be – this has been proven.
P.S. 2x2 is automatically a no-go, as no tournament of this format has even come close to achieving balance, and it is also more difficult to gather 4 people. I strongly advise forgetting about this mode in the context of inter-country competitions (as connection issues are particularly severe in this format).

1) Siberia (4-5 people)
2) DPR (3 people)

It's clear who's in the Siberia team, but could you tell me the names of the heroes from the second team?:smile28:

I suggest forming a team from the Central region of the country. We have many strong players. The question is, how many people should be in the team?
If the organizer decides to allow teams to be formed by region.

What about the teams from the Luhansk People's Republic and Abkhazia? :D

What about the teams from the LPR and Abkhazia? :D

Crimea too.

DPR (Ubity, Zillot, Toycar). At least, that's what Zillot wrote; Ubity, as I understand it, doesn't know yet))) The other republics and autonomies are silent. Everything depends on them))) There's still time to declare yourself an autonomy and sign up for the tournament)))) But seriously, for now we're waiting for proposals and specifics.

Noom, it's like saying that separating women's and men's football is discrimination and they should be merged))) I'm for equality — especially in cybersport there are no such restrictions. Think about it yourself — let's gather teams by country, for example. Which country is ready to take one of the girls if there is a specific player limit? Does that mean everyone is discriminating?))) Well, that's nonsense... Especially since they are capable of beating some players. Maybe the guys are afraid of losing to an all-girls team — that's another conversation)))) And I'll repeat again — this is just a survey and different options with it. In the end, we'll gather a team of girls, cheaters, retirees, black people, Caucasians, Ukrainians, Russians, etc. Then at least there will be a reason to talk about racism, discrimination, and so on in cybersport)))) Better to focus on more important topics in this section on HeroesWorld.

HellLight, to avoid a dragged-out tournament, the following is planned: the introduction of referees, playing in one sitting, substitutions, and likely abandoning overly lengthy templates. Those who participated in the tournaments we ran will confirm — not a single tournament was greatly extended beyond the planned limits, although there were enough problems. And let's not forget that teams were always given 1 week to play. There were complaints, but everyone played through gritted teeth or were happy))) I have several solutions for teams dragging out the tournament — either disqualification or technical results, or replacing the team/player. If we limit the number of players, problems will start again like "I need to leave, I'm busy, let's save the game and so on," and let the streamers adapt, run the tournament, solve problems, etc. — it's not like they have anything better to do. Especially considering the community's help in show tournaments regarding streaming. So far, the only helper is Nikostar.

DNR (Killed, Zillot, Toycar)

If I'm not mistaken, he's from Luhansk.

Noom, that's like saying that separating women's and men's football is discrimination and they should be combined)))

Women are physically weaker than men, which is why there are separate women's and men's teams.

I'm for equality - especially in esports, where there are no such limitations. Just think about it - we gather teams by country. Which country is willing to take one of the girls if there is a specific limit on the number of players?

So, there's a girl who plays objectively worse, and she's not taken into the team, and therefore, we need to create a separate team for special players.

No - that's not the reason. But because what is it that we do? That's right - we promote Heroes. Who is more pleasant to watch on streams, guys or girls? I think the answer is obvious. Moving on. Why do we often hear exclamations that girls don't play or don't know how to play Heroes? Because they haven't seen their games, it's logical, isn't it? Special players? No - they are the same in terms of gameplay, but there are fewer of them on ХВ. Outside of ХВ, you could assemble an entire women's tournament. I don't understand your outrage over this. Is this some kind of sore subject here?))) As I said - various options for increasing the number of teams are being considered. This is just an example. If you're interested in this topic, let's talk in PM, why spam the forum?

Many players from different countries can be gathered for the WCL (but this is not certain). I recommend contacting Dave or whoever else is familiar with this.

I would participate in the Southern Russia team, as a representative of the Southern capital, if Gomunguls agrees to lead it)). And if Yar joins too)). However, I probably won't be able to stream, as all I have is an old laptop and an equally old internet connection via ADSL.