Meetings of the Local Council of Mapmakers. Auto-translated

the team has already been replaced, so nothing should be delayed.

I have already expressed my opinion. The way JOIS justifies himself does not speak in his favor. He himself admits to lying. And not knowing a friend's date of birth – is that senile dementia? Therefore, I declare, on behalf of the clan "Man to Man," that no games will be played with him.

Has the charter already been approved?
If not, here's a small clarification – it's necessary to specify the responsibilities.

Best regards, Draco

The charter has already been adopted. However, amendments can be made to it at a general meeting. More specifically, what do you propose?

You can address me informally.

I suggest we define:
- what constitutes inappropriate behavior;
- the specific rights and responsibilities (a list of them) of the members of the House of Lords – the chairman and others, as well as the members of the House of Commons; in addition, we get an equal number of members in the lower and upper houses, which will eventually backfire!
- procedural matters (how conflicts will be resolved, by a commission, individually, in what composition, within what timeframes, etc., how other decisions are made – is the time limit unlimited or limited);
- what specific issues does the LMC resolve (what does this include – cooperation, resolution of conflict situations, etc.);
- what constitutes a conflict situation (between whom – members of the same Clan or different Clans, insults or something else).
- and most importantly – what penalties are imposed on the Clans and their members (or is the LMC purely an advisory body?)
These are the questions that arise. At first glance, there is a core, but it is somewhat amorphous. It can be interpreted in different ways.

Does the LMC need specific proposals, or will you decide on these issues yourselves? (if you want, of course)

Sincerely, Draco

Specific suggestions are needed.

Okay, I will provide it to the high court soon :). First, I just need some information: has a practice already been established, and if so, what is it?

Sincerely, Draco

Added 2 hours 48 minutes ago
And also: what task did the idea generator - AlexeyPank and all other members of the Clans - set for themselves?

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The first two chapters:

The Charter of the "League of Laws - Inter-Clan Council".

I. General Provisions.

1. The "League of Laws - Inter-Clan Council" (hereinafter referred to as the LZMС) is an organization whose purpose is to facilitate cooperation and provide recommendations for resolving disputes arising between Clans.
The "League of Laws - Inter-Clan Council" (abbreviated as LZMС) is an organization whose purpose is to establish cooperation and provide recommendations for resolving disputes arising between Clans.
2. The LZMС is created by Clans on the "Heroesworld" portal.
3. The name "League of Laws - Inter-Clan Council" is unique and cannot and should not be used by other players as a name or title for Clans.
Names that are similar in sound to the abbreviation LZMС or the name "League of Laws - Inter-Clan Council" also cannot be used. Similarity means a match of 3 out of 4 components of letters or words, respectively.
The use of the name LZMС entails a collective appeal from the Clans to the administrator with a request to exclude the person or the head of the Clan from the list of forum visitors for a month (option 1).
Option 2: The use of the name LZMС means disrespect to other forum visitors who are members of Clans that are part of the LZMС, and entails a corresponding attitude towards the Clan or person from the indicated visitors (boycott, destruction in tournaments, etc.).
4. The LZMС is independent of any other organization and is a self-developing organization under the joint leadership of representatives of the Clans.
5. The LZMС consists of two representatives from each Clan and includes the following:
a) the Chamber of Commons;
b) the Chamber of Lords.
6. A representative is a person who has been entrusted to represent the Clan in this organization.
7. Any member of the Clan can be a representative, if the Clan leader has entrusted him with such an honor.
8. Members of the LZMС organization have their own rights and obligations.
9. The leadership and coordination of activities in the club are carried out by the chairman and his deputy.

II. Members of the organization.

1. Any two members of the Clan can become members of the organization. To do this, it is necessary:
a) Recognition of the Clan (if it is a new Clan) as a fully functioning Clan;
b) Having permission from the head of the Clan to represent the Clan in the organization.
2. To join the LZMС, the Clan leader publicly announces his consent to this, indicates the nickname of the person who will represent the Clan, and the contact information that will be used to communicate with him (ICQ, mail, etc.).
3. A member of the organization is free and independent from external influence, such as: pressure, threats, bribery, requests, blackmail, etc.
In the event of pressure (threats, blackmail, requests, bribery, etc.) or suspicion of it, a commission is created consisting of representatives of the Clans that are part of the organization, with the participation of representatives of the administrator and the person who is allegedly exerting pressure.
After confirmation of the fact of pressure (establishment of the event and motive), a collective appeal from the Clans to the administrator follows with a request to restrict the person's access to the forum for a month (option 1).
Option 2: After confirmation of the fact of pressure (establishment of the event and motive), the relationship with the person who exerted pressure worsens.
If there is no evidence, the member of the organization who made the slander is excluded from the organization, and, if possible, his access to the forum is restricted for a month (option 1).
Option 2: If there is no evidence, the member of the organization who made the slander is excluded from the organization, and he is assigned one penalty point.
4. Each Member of the organization has its own rights:
- the right to free access to information about other members of the organization and their status;
- the right to participate in the management of the organization;
- the right to propose their projects to improve the organization, as well as express their opinion.
A member of the organization has the following rights:
- the right to free access to information about other members of the organization and their status; if this information is not provided to the Clan member and its leader, a penalty point is assigned to each;
- the right to receive other information; the information is provided by the chairman, deputy chairman, or secretary by e-mail or other means within 24 hours from the moment the information appears (Moscow time); untimely provision or failure to provide information results in the assignment of a penalty point; the absence of a response to the received information releases and does not entail responsibility;
- the right to participate in the organization:
the right to participate in conflict resolution commissions of the organization;
the right to vote on all issues decided in the organization; one member has one vote;
the right to be elected chairman, deputy chairman, or secretary;
- the right to propose their projects to improve the organization; projects must be submitted publicly;
- the right to express their opinions; opinions must be substantiated;
- the right to be rewarded for decent behavior.
5. Each member of the organization has obligations:
- a member of the organization must respect the rights of other members of the organization;
- a member of the organization must respect the organization;
- a member of the organization must comply with the charter.
A member of the organization is obliged to:
- comply with the above rights of other members of the organization; non-compliance with rights means an explicit expression of rudeness, the use of obscene words; ignoring the opinion of other members; violation of this rule results in the assignment of a penalty point;
- respect the organization; disrespect is expressed in a clearly offensive and dismissive attitude towards the organization; violation of this rule results in the assignment of a penalty point;
- comply with the charter of the organization; violation of any norms provided for in this Charter entails the assignment of a penalty point;
6. The presence of penalty points is confidential information and cannot be disclosed to other site visitors.

Sincerely, Draco

What is meant by "free access to information about other members of the organization"?
Some kind of profile data, invisible to users but provided during registration?

I quote the Charter:
"3. Every Member of the organization has certain rights:- the right to free access to information about other members of the organization and their status;- the right to participate in the leadership of the organization;- the right to propose their own projects for the improvement of the organization, as well as to express their opinion."
What did you mean by this?

Regards, Drako

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III. LZMS Leadership.

1. LZMS leadership is carried out for the purpose of coordination and improving the level of work of the LZMS.
LZMS leadership is carried out for the purpose of increasing the consistency of actions of LZMS members and clans, as well as improving the level of work of the LZMS. (in my view, this point is redundant overall; it is already clear why leadership is needed)
2. LZMS leadership consists of a house of lords (including one representative from each clan) and a chairman (elected from among the members of the house of lords monthly). The powers of the chairman are 30 full calendar days from the date of a positive vote.
Since the structure of the LZMS is approved, it will likely not change; I will only point out the shortcomings: the number of leadership members equals the number of members of the house of commons, thus there is no equality of rights (for example, if the leadership unanimously makes a certain decision unfavorable to ordinary members + 1 vote joins from the house of commons, and others are against – what should they do?). Options:
1. Leadership should consist of a chairman, deputy chairman, and secretary.
2. Any member has a right of veto, which can be overridden, say, by a unanimous vote (2/3, ¾) on the given issue (except for 1 vote – that of the person who is against).
3. The issue is brought for discussion to all clan members, not only LZMS members.
This is the first thing that came to mind. There may be other options.
In this point, without the above-mentioned changes, the following additions should be made:
LZMS leadership consists of a house of lords (including one representative from each clan), a chairman (elected from among the members of the house of lords by a qualified majority (more than 2/3, ¾) monthly within twenty-four hours and during twenty-four hours from the moment the previous chairman's powers expire), a deputy chairman (appointed by the chairman and approved by a simple majority of votes) and a secretary (elected by a simple majority of votes and approved by the chairman). As for the election of the deputy and secretary, it can be vice versa or the same. The powers of the chairman, deputy chairman, and secretary are 30 full calendar days from the date of a positive vote.
The chairman, deputy chairman, and secretary cannot be members of the same clan.
3. Rights of the chairman:
- the chairman is entitled to use all rights granted by this Charter to an ordinary member of the organization;
- the chairman is entitled to create conflict commissions, investigative commissions and internal commissions;
- the chairman is entitled to issue warnings to LZMS members who violate this Charter. For three warnings, a penalty point is assigned. After a penalty point is assigned, warnings expire and their count starts over.
- the chairman is entitled to submit proposals to the LZMS meeting for rewarding LZMS members for worthy behavior.
4. Duties of the chairman:
- the chairman has all duties granted by this Charter to an ordinary member of the organization;
- the chairman is obliged to respond in a timely manner to violations of this Charter by LZMS members and clans;
- the chairman is obliged to keep track of penalty points of LZMS members;
- the chairman is obliged to ensure timely control over compliance with this Charter.
5. The deputy chairman possesses the rights and duties of the chairman during the absence of the chairman or in other cases, which is formalized by a special public mandate from the chairman.
6. At any time, the deputy chairman is obliged:
- to control the activities of LZMS commissions and members of the organization;
- to report violations to the chairman.
7. Rights and duties of the secretary:
- the secretary possesses the rights and duties provided by this Charter for other members of the organization;
- the secretary is obliged to form the agenda of LZMS meetings;
- the secretary is obliged to inform LZMS members about meetings, adopted decisions, and in other cases;
- the secretary publishes LZMS decisions.
8. The chairman, deputy chairman, and secretary notify organization members of issued warnings, assigned penalty points, and denial of access to the site.
3. In case of unworthy behavior, a member of leadership may be relieved of their duties. The leader of the clan to which the violator belongs nominates another candidate for this position. If the activities of the LZMS chairman cause complaints, an impeachment procedure may be conducted. In the event that 2/3 or more members of the house of lords vote for impeachment - the chairman is relieved of their duties.
In case of unworthy behavior, a member of leadership may be relieved of their duties. The leader of the clan to which the violator belongs nominates another candidate for this position. If the activities of the LZMS chairman cause complaints, an impeachment procedure may be conducted. In the event that 2/3 or more members of the house of lords vote for impeachment - the chairman is relieved of their duties on the same day. The last day for electing a new chairman is the day following the decision on early termination of powers (impeachment).
4. The house of lords forms the agenda of LZMS meetings and notifies all LZMS members of the time of the meetings. Is there a need for this point given the above?!

Regards, Drako

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I have no complaints regarding the following chapter.
But there are additions to the entire Charter:

1. LZMS Meetings and Decisions:
1. Any member of the LZMS is entitled to appeal publicly to the chairman or deputy chairman regarding the holding of a meeting.
2. The chairman appoints the date and time of the meeting (Moscow time, the duration of the meeting is calculated in days). The secretary notifies organization members of the date and time of the meeting, as well as the agenda of the meeting.
3. The meeting continues for two days from the moment the agenda of the meeting is posted. Any member of the LZMS is entitled to participate in the discussion of issues brought to the meeting. Votes of other forum visitors are not taken into account.
4. An LZMS decision is a resolution that is mandatory for members of the LZMS and clans included in the LZMS, and recommendatory for other clans and forum visitors.
5. LZMS decisions are considered adopted if more than half of the organization members vote for them within 48 hours.
6. In case of non-compliance with a mandatory resolution, a clan may be excluded from the LZMS.

2. System of Penalties and Rewards.
1. A penalty system and warning system operate in the LZMS, which is understood as the assignment of warnings and penalty points to a member of the organization in case of unworthy behavior.
2. Warnings are issued by the chairman in case of violation of the Charter, with this information and the reasons for issuance brought to every member of the LZMS within twenty-four hours. Three warnings mean one penalty point.
3. Penalty points are assigned by the chairman in a closed meeting in the presence of the house of lords and commons within two days from the moment the violation is discovered in the following cases and amounts:
- slander against any forum visitor, expressed as an accusation of the latter pressuring an LZMS member – 1 penalty point;
- restriction of access to information about a member of a clan included in the LZMS – 1 penalty point each for the leader (if the leader is the representative of the clan in the organization) and the clan member whose information is required;
- non-compliance with the rights of other LZMS members – 1 penalty point;
- disrespect to the organization – 1 penalty point;
- non-compliance with other provisions of the Charter – 1 penalty point.
4. If a member of the organization has five penalty points, a collective appeal from clans included in the LZMS should be made to the administrator requesting that the specified member be denied access to the forum for 1 month.
5. After the expiration of the month during which access to the forum was restricted, penalty points expire and the count starts over.
6. In case of a gross violation (two out of three months – or sixty out of ninety days of restricted site access), access to the site is prohibited forever.
7. A reward system operates in the LZMS, which is understood as awarding LZMS members with certificates for conscientious attitude to work and absence of penalties for two months.
8. The award is carried out by a general meeting of the LZMS upon presentation by the chairman or deputy chairman.

I am finalizing the provisions on commissions.

Regards, Drako

"restricting access to information about a clan member who is part of the League of Mages" - it would still be helpful to clarify what kind of information is meant.

What kind of information could it be? Clearly, not the kind that is available to any visitor. And certainly not the kind that should be completely inaccessible (e.g., wife's name, number of children, etc.). Therefore, this information should be related to activities as a member of the League of ZM and the clan, in particular:
1. Number of penalty points.
2. Participation in committees.
3. Participation in intra-clan tournaments, etc.
Everything that may be needed to resolve conflicts.

Sincerely, Draco

That's strange, but it seemed to me that this information should be available.

Because it says a lot about a person, especially as a member of the League of Shadowy Mages.

And members of the League of Shadowy Mages shouldn't be elusive or anonymous.

It's strange, but it seemed to me that this information should be accessible.

Because it says a lot about a person, especially as a member of the League of Shadowy Mercenaries (LZMS).

And members of the LZMS should not be elusive or anonymous.

I suggest the same. This rule implies that there are no restrictions on obtaining information about a member of the LZMS, which automatically eliminates the possibility of putting pressure on that member (at least based on these parameters).

Sincerely, Draco

In a recent discussion, it was demonstrated how such problems should not be resolved. There is no need to create discord and problems out of nowhere. The entire issue could have been resolved with a single private message addressed to me, since the problem was initially presented as a violation of the HeroesWorld rules, and such problems can and even should be addressed to me in similar and controversial cases, but for some reason, no one did so. I hope that many participants in this discussion have understood that problems of this nature are not resolved in the way it was done in this thread. And most importantly, it is important to learn to listen to other people's opinions, and if they turn out to be correct, then there is no need to defend one's incorrect opinion to the very end, especially considering the fact that for many, their own opinion seems to be the only correct one. Acknowledging one's own mistake speaks only of great courage, not of defeat.

Given the current situation, I am raising the question of whether it is still worthwhile to continue the activities of the LZMS.