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Offline =Lizard=
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Actually, Albert's build is quite decent. It emphasizes "mutually destroyed" units. There are very few such situations. And if only one unit is killed, then you can investigate further. So, in principle, it works well in both SOD and HOT.
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Offline KobRa_RR
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Actually, Albert's variant is not bad. It emphasizes the "mutually destructive" aspect. There are very few such situations. And if only one is killed, then you can dig. So, in principle, it works well in SOD/HotA too.

The main thing here is that no one will get the Hero with artifacts! And without artifacts, let them dig as much as they want.


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3 days have passed, and no objections were raised, so the Al-Fayen version will be used.
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Offline KobRa_RR
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Is a compromise possible? Maybe we should go back to what we had and finish the tournament... I don't really want to play with a reduced roster.


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Following discussions, the anti-gambling rule has been revised:

If both heroes die in a battle between players, and at least one of them had a level of 10 or higher at the time of the battle, then neither of them can be resurrected. If one of them arrived with troops at the beginning of the week, then the autosave from the previous day should be used. If both slots in the tavern are occupied by such heroes, then the autosave should also be used.

Hmm. Perhaps it should be "if both heroes had a level of 10 or higher at the time of the battle." Otherwise, Armageddon's Blade (or The Shadow of Death, etc.) with a high-level hero becomes a super-advantageous situation for one player and a fatal one for the other. We are striving for a more or less balanced game:).
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Offline AlexTheGreat
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Three days have passed, and no objections were received, so the Al-Fayen version will be used.

What does "no objections were received" mean? I think I posted my version...

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I understand that Al-Fayen wrote it slightly differently...
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Offline Grando
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I can only confirm that I also felt that my proposed wording was being adjusted based on one key point. AT immediately wrote that both ("2!!!") heroes must be main characters. Lizzy has now written about this in the Tournaments thread as well. I deliberately mentioned one hero because I thought that successfully killing a "dad" with a cheap tactic should count as a kill. But this is clearly suggested from my level of understanding of the game. Obviously, both AT and Lizzy are suggesting to include only the option where two "dads" fight each other.
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I can only confirm that it seemed to me that they were trying to edit the formulation I proposed on one key point.
ATG immediately wrote that both ("2!!!") heroes must be main characters.
Lizzy also wrote about this in the tournament thread now.

I deliberately wrote about one hero. Because I thought that successfully killing a "dad" with a cheat should count as a frag.
But this is obviously suggested from my level of understanding the game. Obviously, both ATG and Lizzy suggest writing down only the option with a battle between two "dads".

It's just that an option where a hero below level 10 could take away another player's leader seems unrealistic... so I think my interpretation is more adequate somehow...
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Offline zoog
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For the company and my version: a hero who arrives at the tavern and has a level equal to or higher than the maximum level of the existing heroes cannot participate in battles (i.e., clearing neutral creatures or using auto-battle is fine; if you want to play as Crag at level 15, you need to dismiss scouts at level 20).
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Offline Wicc
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Alex worded it in such a way that I didn't perceive his post as an objection. :) There are 2 options in the poll: 1) At least 1 hero level 10+ 2) Both heroes level 10+ We vote by posting in this thread. I don't mind, so the decision will be made by a simple majority of votes.
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Offline Dirty_Player
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Why isn't there an option in the poll to keep everything as it is? :smile15:
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Offline sir Davos Seaworth
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Alex wrote it in such a way that I didn't perceive his post as an objection :)

There are 2 options in the poll:

1) At least 1 hero level 10+

2) Both heroes level 10+

We vote by posting in this thread. I don't care, so the decision will be made by a simple majority of votes.
The option of not limiting anything at all is not even being considered...
"There's no need to execute me,sir Davos . I'll be dead before dawn."
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Offline Xocenk
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The option of not imposing any restrictions is not even being considered...
You've been told this 100 times. It's done to avoid draws due to people's unwillingness to play a game of chance involving digging up a hero (as was the case with Lizard and Delux), or winning simply because one person dug up a powerful hero with artifacts, while the other didn't.

The second option is more appealing.
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Offline sir Davos Seaworth
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You've been told this a hundred times. It's done to avoid draws due to people's unwillingness to play a "hero-digging roulette" (as was the case with Lizard and Delux), or to prevent wins simply because one player dug up a powerful hero with artifacts, while the other didn't.
But what about those who are perfectly fine with the "roulette"?))
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sir Davos Seaworth
What about the wishes of those who are not at all opposed to "roulette"?))
Roulette fans don't play Mirror, but various Jebus Crosses, Diamonds, Anarchies
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