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19 years ago
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Drako;105011
Three questions: does anyone know when the voting will end?
The voting seems to be here forever! :rolleyes:
But it is no longer relevant, and ideally, it should be removed.
Drako;105011
Or will the discussion continue indefinitely?
Well, there are eternal questions... the rating question seems to be one of them... :D
Drako;105011
Maybe set strict deadlines?
Best regards, Drako
I think everything will be decided by November - December... :)

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19 years ago
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I agree, I agree. The idea is there; now, we just need to give it a concrete form. Perhaps tomorrow or the day after, I'll present the results.
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19 years ago
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Ley;104924
Yeah, a Grand Slam Tournament... :D
And what exactly do you mean by that? That, for example, in a "small tournament," the rating will also not be very high :), but in a "big" one, it will be better... Elaborate on your thought or continue what you said. ;)

The volume of rating points will be equivalent, but, for example, the Van Kanigem Tournaments are "Grand Spear" tournaments. Create a separate rating for them and a separate General rating for all tournaments.

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IronAxe;105032
:) We're already getting confused with the ratings due to a bunch of different systems, a bunch of tables + clan + for different versions of the game in Heroes. Initially, it was assumed that a player in Heroes could have a maximum of 6 ratings!! :) For each of the versions in Heroes + the universal version. This is according to the official version. Well, you can also add here ratings for online play for five versions and the universal version. That's already 12. And now you're suggesting tripling that number :) And also taking into account ratings for small, medium, and large Grand Slam tournaments :) And what if there's a Grand Slam for this :smile19: Just kidding.
There won't be a bunch of them. Just one more, and even that is simply by highlighting a portion of the General one; nothing complicated.
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19 years ago
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AlexeyPank;105043
I agree, I agree. The idea is there; it just needs to be given a concrete form. Perhaps tomorrow or the day after, I'll offer some results.
I'm interested in what weight the "location" parameter will have in your new system. See the table for stage 4. :)

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Kamikaze;105048
There won't be a ton of them. Just one more, and even that is simply by allocating a portion from the total; nothing complicated.
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19 years ago
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IronAxe;105055
Well, in the Big Spear, will the rating also be based on the five versions of Heroes, plus a universal rating, or something like that? Where is the +1, and what does it mean to allocate a portion of the rating from the total? From what total?

No, it's in the Big Spear, not the Helmet. The rating is one - THE RATING FOR THE BIG SPEAR TOURNAMENTS! Why divide it into five???
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19 years ago
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Kamikaze;105059
No, in the Big Spear, not the Helmet, there is one rating — THE BIG SPEAR TOURNAMENTS RATING! Why divide it into five???
:) Now I understand even less — what spears and helmets :)
We have heroes 1,2,3,4,5. If a player plays all five versions, a rating is calculated for each of the 5 versions, and he has 5 ratings. + 1 universal. If he also plays online, then another 5 ratings + 1 universal. That's already 12. At the moment there is no online rating. Fine — 6 left. Well, let's discard the universal one. 5 left. They are calculated by three systems. 5x3=15. AlexPank is about to whip up another system = 20. Is that not enough for you? :) And as for spears and helmets, I have no clue at all :)
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19 years ago
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IronAxe;105089
:) Now I understand even less – what spears and helmets are you talking about? :)
We have Heroes 1, 2, 3, 4, and 5. If a player plays all five versions, their rating is calculated for each of the five versions, and they have five ratings. + 1 universal rating. If they also play online, they get another five ratings + 1 universal rating. That's already 12. Currently, there is no online rating. Okay, that leaves 6. Let's discard the universal one. That leaves 5. They are calculated using three systems. 5x3=15. AlexPank will create another system soon = 20. Is that not enough for you? :) And I have no idea about the spears and helmets. :)
As for the spears and helmets, that was just a digression on a free topic.
We have Heroes 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, + 1 universal rating, + one for the main tournaments, regardless of the Heroes version. That's seven in total.
Online is online. And about 5x3, there should be a single system here...:p
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19 years ago
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Kamikaze;105144
We have heroes from versions 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, + 1 universal hero, + one based on the main tournaments, regardless of the Heroes version. That's a total of seven.
But it already exists :) AlexPank calculates the rating for the Kanighem tournament separately from the overall rating of each player. He only takes into account the games played in the Kanighem stages. Isn't that the main tournament on our forum right now?
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19 years ago
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Basically, I have my own version of a player rating system and I want to share it with everyone so people can suggest improvements or changes. Where can I post this information?
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19 years ago
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Kamikaze;105267
Where can I post information?
You can post it here! This thread is specifically for that! ;)
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19 years ago
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I have tables with numbers :)
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19 years ago
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Kamikaze;105271
I have tables with numbers :)
Upload it as an attachment.
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19 years ago
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Here is the ranking for the first HoMM1 tournament.


The main ranking is highlighted in bold, and the components are listed to the right of it: positional and result-based.
The positional component accounts for 30% of the total score, while the result-based component accounts for 70%.

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19 years ago
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Kamikaze;105277


The main rating is highlighted in bold, and the components are to the right of it: positional and result-based.
Moreover, the positional component accounts for 30% of the total, and the result-based component accounts for 70%.
Write down the formula... it will be clearer. ;)
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19 years ago
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I used the following formula for positioning: X(i) = K * X(i-1), where X is the rating, i is the position, and K is the non-linearity coefficient, K = 1 - 3.5/n, where n is the number of participants. I plan to reduce the constant 3.5 for a more gradual change in the parameter.
The formula for the result is: Y = Rb/Rp * 100, where Y is the rating, Rb is the best result, and Rp is the result of the current participant.
Overall rating: P = (X * 3 + Y * 7) / 10

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