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Well, comrades… then what will be the difference between an official tournament and an unofficial one?
Besides, we seem to have decided to bring this concept to life. This means that this tournament has the status of an unofficial one, and its rating should not be counted.
Sincerely.
I also think that the rating in this tournament shouldn't be counted because it is unofficial. If someone else were organizing it..., then it would be different. But as it is, a system for awarding grails would be quite sufficient. The only question is when will this system come into effect…? :)
"Единственное, что можно сказать с уверенностью об удаче - она изменит..."
Well, comrades… what will be the difference between an official tournament and an unofficial one then? Besides, we вроде decided to bring this concept to life. This means that this tournament has the status of an unofficial one, and its rating should not be counted. Sincerely.
In this concept, VDV expressed himself a little inaccurately. It says that ratings must be awarded for official tournaments in any case, even if there is no quorum. But for unofficial tournaments, he proposes awarding grails to players who are not present and whose participation date is unknown. However, in the discussion thread about the ranking system, where AlexPank, AmberSoler, and Axe were actively involved, the idea was put forward that ratings SHOULD BE AWARDED for unofficial tournaments, BUT only if there is a sufficient number of participants (quorum). No one opposed this concept. And in VDV's concept, it is written vaguely about this. So, I have a question specifically for Kyle: Are you not interested in developing unofficial tournaments? Awarding rankings when there is a quorum for unofficial tournaments seems positive to me.
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I also think that the rating in this tournament shouldn’t be counted because it is unofficial. If someone else organized it… As for now, the grail award system is quite enough, but when will this system come into effect...? :)
The rating has already been calculated, and the voting can be closed :). What makes this "someone else" (Ataman) worse than the administration? The tournament was excellently organized and held at a proper level, and a quorum was reached. The administration does not have any grails, at least not yet. Therefore, it is logical to count the ranking, especially since it does not contradict anyone's concept.
The rating has already been calculated, and the voting can be closed. How is this "someone else" (Ataman) worse than the administration? The tournament was organized excellently and ran smoothly, and the quorum was reached. The administration doesn't have any "holy grails," at least not yet. Therefore, it makes sense to calculate the rating, especially since it doesn't contradict anyone's concept.
I didn't read the posts about the quorum... How many participants are needed for it to "take place"?
"Единственное, что можно сказать с уверенностью об удаче - она изменит..."
I haven't read the posts about quorum... How many participants are needed for it to be considered valid?
8. For unofficial Tournaments on HeroesWorld, a tournament can only be recognized as ranked if there is a minimum quorum of participants in that tournament:
Here is an excerpt from the rules for calculating the rating according to my system. You can read more details about the ranking calculation rules from Axe here: /topic/2039/ Unfortunately, the rating itself hasn't been updated since May. I don't have time right now. Adding all uncounted tournaments will happen later.
PS. This rule regarding the minimum quorums for unofficials also exists in AlexPank's concept for calculating the rating.
Three identical playthroughs + 2 almost identical descriptions. Well, theoretically, this is possible....:D Almost, the difference is in the amount of money. But that's just a coincidence, right?:rolleyes: And what are the differences in your playthroughs? I haven't found any yet....
Did you request additional save files? The main thing is that there are no fake save files; the end of each day – and check the location of the heroes and the names of the heroes (their faces).
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to IronAxe and Kamikaze:
The tournament was initially planned as an unofficial one! After it ended, some wanted to turn it into an official one for mercenary reasons.
Of course, I understand you... You played well, and you want to get the most out of it, but still, a deal is more important than money. Since you planned the tournament as unofficial, you should stick to it.
IMHO.
Sincerely.
Кто состоянием своим доволен, тому жить весело. (с)Алекса́ндр Васи́льевич Суво́ров
to IronAxe and Kamikaze: The tournament was originally planned as unofficial! After it ended, some wanted to turn it into an official one out of mercenary interests. Of course, I understand you.. You played and therefore want to get the most out of it, but still, a deal is worth more than money; since the tournament was planned as unofficial, we must see it through to the end. IMHO. Respectfully.
There are no mercenary interests. Three people have already told you that for an unofficial tournament with a quorum, AlexPank and I agreed long ago (long BEFORE THE START OF THIS TOURNAMENT) to calculate the Player Rating. If you don't want to use it to calculate the clan rating - that is your right. And it is our right to calculate the rating as we agreed. No one intends to turn it into an OFFICIAL tournament :) Kamikaze was joking :)
Were you asking for additional save files? The main thing is to avoid any fake save files; save at the end of each day and check the location and names (faces) of the heroes.
Since the results have been entered into the table, it means that no violation of the rules has been proven. That is, the save files have been accepted.
Since the results have been entered into the table, it means that no violation of the rules was proven. That is, the saves have been counted.
I understand. I'm just clarifying whether additional saves were requested from the players, for example, at the end of each game day?
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I don't understand who would want to do this for mercenary reasons. I didn't participate in this tournament, and my clan wasn't the most represented. I certainly didn't stand to gain anything from it. I tracked the player rating because the required number of participants was reached, and there were no complaints about the tournament.
I don't understand who would want to do it for mercenary reasons. I didn't participate in this tournament, and my clan wasn't the most representative. I certainly didn't benefit from it in any way. I tracked the rating because we reached the quorum, and there were no complaints about the tournament.
I guess someone was hinting at mercenary interests :) But it's okay, I'm used to it :) I support AlexPank. Alex, confirm to the community that we agreed long before the tournaments began to unofficially count the results towards the rating if we had a quorum.
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It seems like this was discussed a long time ago. What makes an unofficial tournament worse than an official one, other than the fact that it's not run by a moderator?
It seems like this has already been discussed. What makes an unofficial tournament worse than an official one, besides the fact that it's not run by a moderator?
Maybe someone has their own reasons for wanting the unofficial tournaments to be worse than the official ones? :)
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