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Well, well... It's quite lively here.

To be fair, Ple-Sen has a point. The forum rules don't prohibit these discussions, so if discussing/arguing isn't allowed in this section, where should it be?

The admin hasn't been around for almost 2 months, so what? Are the rules now irrelevant, and we're just going by "common sense"? :mad: How should we address the "green-skinned" ones now? "Citizen boss" or "overseer"?

All these discussions can be reduced to stirring up controversy and insults, including insults directed at the religious feelings of those who believe in good politicians.

In my opinion, the Creator himself mentioned that it is at least not recommended.

Am I the only one who hasn't heard about this?:confused:

Does promoting suicide and recruiting for banned terrorist organizations also count?

This falls under point 7.

The fact that you haven't heard of it doesn't mean anything. I'll just note that regarding this specific topic, my opinion differs somewhat from other actions taken in the name of fairness and forum rules; however, considering that it all started with the inaction and negligence of the Heroes of Might and Magic III moderation team, who moved it along with its inhabitants to our section, I think it's quite fair if the local moderation applies appropriate measures, which, by the way, should have been done a long time ago (if I had the authority, I would have moved it to their tournament section and pinned it the very next day after it was created), but these are all minor issues from years past. So, Kosha did well, and she did the right thing.

Does promoting suicide and recruiting for banned terrorist organizations also count?

This falls under point 7.

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I thought you didn't believe in justice anymore.

I meant that in this specific case, the decision was fair and adequate, regardless of what is written in the rules and other documents. If it can be implemented, why not? But in general, you are right.

That’s just my opinion. If Kosha wants to remove political discussions from the general chat, let her do it. But only if the same applies to other types of off-topic content. For example, no anime girls or cats in a thread about politics. She should choose one thing and stick to it.

Discussing the moderator's actions is prohibited (with the exception of...).
But, if I may, I'll say this.
Initially, the decision regarding the politics-related thread seemed premature to me. The creator did express his opposition to politics at one point, and that's true, but he did so in the format of his personal opinion, and no recommendations or prohibitions were issued as a result. In this regard, the local moderator's decree seemed like an unpleasant measure.
However, after thinking about it for a while, I looked at it from a different perspective. The issue isn't politics itself, but the regular violation of rules in that thread. Yes, ideally, violations should be removed, and points should be assigned for repeated offenses, but, from a purely human point of view, this is not an easy task. And, as Heroist rightly pointed out, this task was imposed on our section from the outside, when the local moderators couldn't handle it. That is, it is implied that the local moderators should just take it upon themselves and sort everything out, deal with the behavior of people who... Well, sometimes, they are quite peculiar. And, perhaps, they don't even fully understand why such a section as the WoW forum exists. That it is a place "for leisure," for diverse discussions, and not for venting their aggression on an unfair world.
In conclusion, I'll say that yes, perhaps this is the solution. Not ideal, but a solution.
I think that a little later, a new politics-related thread could even be created if the regulars of the off-topic forum are interested. Simply, the level of discussion would change dramatically, there would be fewer problematic individuals, and... I think that a new thread, if it is created, will no longer cause anyone to want to delete it.

I could have written this in the "dialogues with moderators," but it would have been more public than in the off-topic forum. However, if necessary, Kosha is free to delete this.

Hmm, the cover for the second season of this anime seems a bit suspicious.

I wrote another small, typical "deep" post, but then I waved it off. A fool will get offended and start assigning points, and a smart person wouldn't even get into such a situation in the first place. Since there is no trust left in the competence of the moderators, it's better to just forget about the existence of such a factor as the color of the nickname. There's nothing new to write about anyway. People have been moderators for ten years, but they continue to stumble over the same problems with arguments, arbitrary deletion of topics, points – life hasn't taught them not to mess with what they depend on. I'll wait until one day a neighbor breaks down the head moderator's door with an axe and says: "Sorry, I've had enough, your door doesn't benefit anyone in this house anyway, and I don't use it either, I just sometimes throw trash under it."

Yes, I was also thinking about starting a new thread about politics 2.0, once the passions subside and the guys from Tribuna completely lose it. But I'm afraid of a repeat if they're still around.
I was thinking... Maybe we should have held a vote. Maybe I was a little too hasty. But I think deleting this thread was the right thing to do.

In conclusion, I'd say – yes, this is a viable solution. Not ideal, but it works.

When I witness solutions like this, I sometimes contemplate an alternative approach.

And why didn't anyone protest when the topic was moved to our section? Because the tier-3 moderators won't listen to arguments and will simply ban you for a week? Or maybe back then, and even today, no one cared about it. You are once again (as with Tox's recent ban) simply confusing cause and effect; I don't know, maybe it's because of old grievances with the moderation system, which is quite clear, sorry.

I think it's an ill-considered action, to put it mildly. Visitors to the thread can easily file a complaint against the moderator who violated the rules of the section. And then someone like Tox will join them, who has been banned multiple times. Or Mortulus. In short, they could get the moderators removed. And then you won't even be able to moderate a second thread like that.

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I don't know, maybe it's because of old grievances with the moderation system.

Heroist, but I don't have any grievances with the old moderators. I've never even received any points, if you want to know.

Not like everyone else?