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Offline =Lizard=
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Talk about the "community falling apart" due to different versions, updates, etc., has always been and remains absurd. 90+% of the players (and even average players) I know (and therefore, who are part of the community) will play absolutely any version if they want to and have the opportunity. The number of serious players who are categorically against playing anything other than the original can be counted on the fingers of one hand. Dark, Grizzwald... hmm, I can't even think of any more.
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Offline Wicc
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Dark, Grizzwald... hmm, I can't even remember more.
I looked at the top 30 ranking and counted 7 people who don't play HotA at all, and another 6 who played in the first year of HotA's release and then stopped.
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I am all for the new features in Hota, except for the heretical new castle, new monsters, and objects on the map.

By developing Hota, you are condemning the classic game to oblivion. A significant portion of veterans will be isolated. Why break up the community? A checkbox for "SoD style" (minus the Cove, minus the "sparkles," etc.) - why not?
1. What is so heretical about the new castle?
2. And wouldn't you want a checkbox for "Erathia style" in SoD (minus the Conflux and so on)?
Why? Hota is a complete and balanced (not perfect, of course) game; it doesn't need to pretend to be part of it or another game.
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Offline Dirty_Player
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I looked at the top 30 ranking and counted 7 people who don't play Heroes of Might and Magic at all, and another 6 who played in the first year of its release and then stopped.
I think the issue here isn't conservatism (although there are definitely some old-school players), but rather the availability of interesting Tournaments. A prime example is "Game of Thrones," which attracted a large number of players, including those who don't play Heroes of Might and Magic. I'm confident that people will play if there are good Tournaments. But "test tournaments like Urfin Juice" or "specific super-blitz tournaments" are of little interest to most. IMHO. I myself would gladly play in an interesting Heroes of Might and Magic tournament, especially since viewers in the chat are actively asking me to stream it.
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Talk about the "community falling apart" due to versions, updates, etc., has always been and remains absurd. 90+% of the players (and even average players) I know (and therefore are part of the community) will play absolutely any version if necessary and if they want to. The number of serious players who are categorically against playing anything other than Soda can be counted on the fingers of one hand. Dark, Grizzwald... hmm, I can't even think of any more.
I completely agree.
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I would gladly participate in an interesting tournament on Heroes of Might and Magic Online, especially since the viewers in the chat are actively asking for a stream of the game.
You've been saying that for the 3rd year now.
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Offline LuckyF
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I completely agree with Kostya; there are very few interesting tournaments for Heroes, and the vast majority are either "testing grounds" or, at best, specific blitz tournaments.
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Yes, I agree. I mostly play HotA now, but I'm not interested in things like Diamond Edition, etc.
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It remains to define what constitutes an "interesting tournament." Apparently, our understanding of this concept differs significantly. I reviewed the list of regular Heroes of Might and Magic III (SoD) tournaments, and here's what I found: 1) Present in both SoD and HotA. An equivalent to SoD's "Favorites" and "OzV" exists (Prestoły). An equivalent to "Jebus Cross - N" exists, albeit in a blitz format. I'm not sure if a non-blitz version is needed. 2) Present only in SoD. OFB-FB: There's no direct equivalent, but it could be introduced if there's sufficient community demand. All Laws: There's no equivalent because it doesn't make much sense in HotA. Wars of Mages: It doesn't exist because there's no software support for it, and such modifications aren't approved by the team. Only-XL: I wouldn't suggest it; in my opinion, it's the most boring thing in Heroes. M-200: No, because playing with 3 stacks in HotA results in a significantly different gameplay experience compared to SoD. It seems we need to create a different template for this size, maybe even a mirrored one; I'm currently considering this. 3) Present only in HotA. Mirrors: It exists (it's even strange that it doesn't exist in SoD). Diamond: It exists, although this year it's in an experimental format; we'll see how it goes. And there are specialized tournaments for different factions. I don't quite understand why there's criticism of the ramp tournament; you yourselves sometimes complain that the developers don't always listen to player feedback. In this tournament, the developers decided to listen and offer one of the options for changing diplomacy, which could be implemented in HotA, so that players can try it out and provide informed feedback. The result has been more than satisfactory. 4) Irregular SoD tournaments. Excellent Company, 3 in 1, 9 Kingdoms, Path to Olympus, Charity: They are all roughly similar to OFB-FB because they are played on a wide pool of templates with standard rules. Perhaps there aren't enough of these types of tournaments? There were also the Duelist and New Year's tournaments.
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I laughed at the mirror thing! Vic is still a great troll. (For those with short memories, like our deity, I'll remind you that Vic "begged" not to hold a similar tournament on Soda, so as not to interfere with the tournament on Hota.) Thrones might be a good alternative to Favorites and 1vAll for some, but definitely not for me, and it's not even about the terrible results shown by me and my team.


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I laughed at the mirror thing! Vic is quite the troll!
Laughing for no reason, huh? :rolleyes:
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Only-XL - I wouldn't recommend it; in my opinion, it's the most boring thing in Heroes.

Diamond - it exists, although this year it's in an experimental format; we'll see how it goes.
It's funny how your position has completely changed from when you were actively playing to now. Around 2009, you were convinced that HL+U was the most balanced thing in Heroes. In 2017, you're trying to push Diamond everywhere, even though there isn't a more dispersive template in this game. Although it might be good for viewers, players are complaining. I wanted to host a tournament on Mini-Nost, but I asked some people and realized that I would be torn apart.)))
By the way, I agree with you about OnlyXL, but public opinion says otherwise. That's why 6lm10a is currently the most popular template.
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And there are specialized tournaments for different Castles. I don't really understand why there's so much criticism of the ramp-up tournament; you yourselves complain from time to time that the developers don't always listen to player feedback. In this tournament, the developers decided to listen - they offered one of the options for changing diplomacy, which could be implemented in HotA, so that players could try it out and express their informed opinion. In my opinion, the result has been more than achieved.
The idea with diplomacy was very good, but if it had been presented in the format of Adel-Ryland-Kira, it would have been better. Urfin Juice was just another test polygon. People are simply tired of playing mirror matches.
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Excellent Company, 3 in 1, 9 Kingdoms, Path to Olympus, Charity - they are all roughly similar to OFB-FB, because they are played with a wide pool of templates according to standard rules. Maybe there just aren't enough of these types of tournaments?
Paradoxically, people are really asking for standard tournaments. They're even rebelling, saying that OFB is following these rules. I don't understand why either :smile32: Standard rules and templates with an original tournament format - that's what people like.
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Offline FireToSky
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Only-XL - I wouldn't recommend it; in my opinion, it's the most boring thing in Heroes.

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Well, that's just ridiculous. Why should we all actively follow your personal opinion?

With the introduction of the XL map overhaul on HOT, they've become quite lively again; even the "garbage" spider map from the Sod version has been transformed and become a pretty good template.
6lm10a (min) is also a perfectly decent option; my friends and I regularly play it, and the mirrored version of the HOT map is much more dynamic and interesting than the Sod version.
But now we have a self-proclaimed king who says that it's all bad. We should only play what he likes, like a poker player on PokerStars.
With your Diamonds and Jades, when they're overused even more, it won't make sense to play at all. You can just open the map, see who has the better hand, and award the victory.

All that's left is to wait for a template for three players, like Mt_spin_and_go 3xm200aa :confused: by Wicc
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For those with short memories, like our deity, let me remind you that Vic "begged" not to hold a similar tournament on Soda, so as not to interfere with the tournament on HotA.
Oh, a troll... :D, the option "begging" is not in my repertoire, just so you know.

Regarding "not interfering with the tournament" - yes, I asked KobRa to postpone this tournament to autumn-winter, so as not to reduce the quorum for each other. Moreover, during the discussion, I got the impression that KobRa was not going to hold anything at all, but simply wanted to engage in some political activity. We will follow the development of events...

For a similar reason, I held Thrones in the spring of 2017, and not in the autumn of 2016 (as originally planned) - so as not to interfere with OzV. Moreover, I personally urged the organizers to actually hold this OzV.
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By the way, I've said for a long time that for HotA, a unique playable template format exceeding XL would be interesting. (H or G - I don't remember exactly) ... Of course, we need to study the demand, but I probably wouldn't play it :D, although it would be interesting to see what kind of template would result.
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Immediately after the release of the new version of HotA (with scrolls that control prices, worth 20K, and the ability to programmatically eliminate heroes before the match), a tournament on HL+U is needed. This will be a significant event, and an interesting one at that.
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