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Best units of level 6
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Wyverns
3.4% 6 votes
Dark Knights
48.3% 86 votes
Nagas
22.5% 40 votes
Magic elements
1.7% 3 votes
Ifrits
5.6% 10 votes
Unicorns
2.8% 5 votes
Knights
7.3% 13 votes
Cyclops
3.4% 6 votes
Manticore
5.1% 9 votes
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19 years ago
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BotINKi;102327
second???:eek: :eek: :eek: please list them all....

It's easy to check: create a map in the editor and place all level 6 monsters (several different ones in terms of the number of units, for clarity, and one-on-one...) - then you'll see which ones are second, and in terms of rating, they're actually third; 1) Naga Queens; 2) Champions; 3) Death Knights, etc.

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And what about resurrection???:D :D

You pop up from who knows where, even without resurrection... :D
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19 years ago
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Ley;102326
This is just your opinion :), but in reality, it's 2nd place.
Well, that's a matter of taste... everyone has their own idea of what's beautiful:)
It's hard to argue with that - those "guys" are annoying.
Well, then there's no point in me saying anything - you're incorrigible :D
Where did you get the idea that it's 2nd place?
Indeed, taste and color... all markers are different...
But there's always a point... that's why the forum exists...
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19 years ago
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Xaker;102334

Where did you get the idea that they are the second best?...

I was just testing something; they beat everyone except the "Nags," so I concluded for myself that they are the second strongest.
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But there's always a point... that's why the forum exists...

Just kidding. Of course, there's always a point :)
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19 years ago
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Ley;102343
Just tested it; they beat everyone except the "Nags," so I concluded that they are the second strongest.

Under what conditions did you test it?
A lot depends on that....
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Under what conditions did you test it?
A lot depends on that...

The conditions, clearly, didn't favor either side:)
sand; primary skills at "0 0 0 0"; secondary skills - not related to battles; hero specialization - leaning towards magic (for example);
of course, without any additional morale or luck.
I created several groups - of 1, 10, 100, and 1000; turn priority - I tried it in turns. That's the gist of it...
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19 years ago
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Ley;102403
The conditions are clear, and they don't favor either side:
sand; primary skills are "0 0 0 0"; secondary skills don't affect battles; hero specialization leans towards magic (for example);
of course, without any additional morale or luck.
I drew several groups - of 1, 10, 100, and 1000; turn priority - I tried alternating. That's the gist of it...
Hmm, I definitely need to try this... It's really piqued my interest. I'll test it and let you know.
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19 years ago
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I also checked – Naga wins… both the regular one and the Queen… and I thought that the Knight was the strongest…
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19 years ago
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Drnik;102426
I checked as well – Naga is winning... both the regular one and the Queen... and I thought that the Knight was the strongest...
I think after a couple more tests, we'll know for sure...
Mathematics is an exact science.
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19 years ago
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Yeah, that makes sense... Naga always wins because of its recklessness – a Knight can only make one attack per turn, while Naga attacks twice. Apparently, the Knight's abilities didn't favor him as often:):)... but still, the Knight is cooler!!... This doesn't consider a duel, but only individual units...
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BotINKi;102443
A duel is not being considered here, only individual units...

Well, it's hard to say, since the thread didn't specify any criteria for evaluating one unit or another. I'm simply saying that one-on-one, Nagas are obviously stronger.
And as for the abilities: Knight damage = 15-30, so even with double damage of 15, their damage and the Nagas' is the same; the curse doesn't work, and as for the double damage, to kill them it would have to trigger every third turn, which is just...

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Drnik;102426
I checked as well—the Naga wins... both the regular one and the Queen... and I thought the Knight was the strongest...

Now, regarding the regular Naga — I wouldn't be so sure, because agree that in this case, the turn priority will definitely belong to the "black death horses," and the first strike means a lot ;)
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Hello. :)\

1) Naga\ 2) Black Knights.\ And now, let's analyze:\ Let's think about it.\ The Black Knights' damage is 15-30. So, the average damage will be (15+30)/2 = 45/2 = 22.5. Double damage occurs in 20% of cases. So, the average damage of the ability is 45*0.2 = 9.\ The total damage with the ability is 22.5 + 9 = 31.5. What do you think of these calculations?\ Naga damage is 30.\ It turns out that, on average, a Death Knight, together with its ability, deals more damage. Now let's recalculate with the difference in attack. Each unit = 5%.\ So, 18 (Black Knight) - 16 (Naga) = 2. 2 * 5% = 10%.\ => 31.5 + 10% = 31.5 + 3.15 = 34.65. Against Naga's 30.\ So, the damage is 6.45% higher. :)\ The downside of Naga is that there is a 5-point difference in defense. So, 5 * 5% = 25%.\ Let's move on.\ Curse acts like inflicting the lower damage threshold. BUT for Naga, the damage is fixed. So, the curse won't affect them in terms of damage. Let's look at it from another angle: if Naga attacks, it doesn't get a counter-attack. It turns out that with each Naga attack, the Knight won't attack, i.e., when the Knight attacks, the Naga will attack. So, the Knight has one less attack, which gives Naga a 50% advantage (with almost equal attack). A 50% advantage more than compensates for the 25% defense that Naga lacks. So, 50% - 25% = 25% advantage for Naga.\ Therefore, I put Naga in 1st place and the Knight in 2nd.\ Regarding the price, it should be noted that one Castle with a Capitol buys all the available units (except for the Tower; it lacks about 900 gold, which is more than compensated for by a hired support hero that generates income (350 gold/day = 2450/week).).\ So, I don't think it's appropriate to compare them based on price.\ Comparing them based on speed is also not very useful, as tactics/acceleration/deceleration are decisive, especially on Expert difficulty. From my experience in online games, I've noticed that by the end, there's a good chance that one of this "trio" will already be on Expert difficulty by the time of the "major battles," so the speed difference is not significant, although the Black Knights will move first due to higher priority, which is related to speed. However, even if we assume that the Black Knights attack the Naga first, the loss (described above) of 25% won't save the Knight. :))\ If I made any mistakes in my calculations, please correct me
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19 years ago
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I think the best tier 6 unit is the Naga, because the enemy doesn't retaliate against its attack, and this can be exploited.
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19 years ago
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Hatt explained everything very clearly, well done! But to add to that, Nagas are a bit more expensive than Knights, and you can say that the price of a unit determines which one is better, meaning the developers set the prices intelligently (although this doesn't apply to comparing Archers and Footmen).
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19 years ago
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Fire Snake;103397
and it can be said that the price of a unit determines which one is better, i.e., the developers have set the prices intelligently (although this does not apply to comparing archers and infantry).

Well, I wouldn't say so... If the developers did set the prices intelligently, then 100% they also took into account the cost of building one or another dwelling.
Why, for example, does a King-Cyclops cost (as far as I remember) 1100 gold, while a Wyvern Monarch costs 800? Although the Wyvern is stronger ;)
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19 years ago
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dark knights are natural...nudes are also good, and cyclops...

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