The 3rd stage of the annual John Van Caneghem Tournament (2010). — Tournament history (offline)

Dirty_Player

16 years ago

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3rd Stage of the Annual John Van Caneghem Tournament
(2010) [/COLOR][/B]

Tournament Map: "Under the Distribution" from the "The Magnificent Four Return" campaign by author Maxuta :cool:

General Tournament Rules:

1. To participate in the Heroes III Tournament, you must register on our website. If you wish, you can also leave an application in this thread. By leaving an application, you will find out about the receipt of your save in the application table.

2. The tournament is held on the Russian versions of Heroes of Might and Magic III:
The Shadow of Death (Version 3.2) or Complete Collection [Platinum Edition] (Version 4.0)

3. The goal of the game is to achieve victory in the minimum number of days. In the case of a tie in days, the deciding criterion is the sum of primary skills (attack, defense, power, knowledge) considering the artifacts worn by ANY of your heroes (the hero's parameters already present in the final save are counted).

4. The tournament is conducted according to the rules of HeroesPortal.net, which are practically identical to the rules of HeroesWorld.ru. You can familiarize yourself with the rules by following the links:
http://www.heroesportal.net/land/rules.php?type=off3
http://www.heroesportal.net/land/rules.php?type=main
http://www.heroesportal.net/land/?type=H3other

We draw special attention to the following point:

. All battles fought in the tournament may be subject to verification by the tournament leaders to ensure they can be repeated on any computer, and precise descriptions of the battles fought may be requested from the tournament participants.
When repeating battles, the roll of morale/luck/abilities should not be the deciding factor in victory (army preservation) and is not mandatory when the tournament leader repeats the battle. A player has the right to deviate from these rules and build their victory on a single roll of morale/luck/abilities and ask the tournament leader to replay their battle several times to confirm the reality of repeating the results.
In the event of deviation from these rules, as well as the inability of the tournament leader to repeat any of the battles in the tournament within 25 attempts, the participant's final save is annulled.

In case of questions, please contact the organizer for clarification.

5. Discussion of the tournament during its progress is FORBIDDEN!!!
If the organizer or their assistant becomes documented evidence of tournament discussion anywhere on the Internet, they have the right to exclude such player(s) from participating in HeroesWorld tournaments once and for all. The results of such players will not be counted and will be immediately annulled.
The tournament organizer also reserves the right to determine that tournament discussion occurred between players if players from the same clan completed the tournament identically.

6. Use of any cheats or bugs in the final Walkthrough is prohibited. Otherwise, the result will be annulled.

7. It is forbidden: to use cheating programs, codes, or additional programs that can change the game structure in the final Walkthrough.

8. In case of suspicion of a player cheating or other malicious intent while completing the map, it is necessary to make a save before every significant event (for example, before a difficult battle, at the end of every game day). The result of a player who played unfairly, or who did not send their description (saves) on time upon the request of the tournament organizer, will be annulled and their further participation in tournaments will be impossible. This will also reflect on their reputation, and not in a positive way.

9. Sequence of actions for participating in the tournament:

9.1. Download the save.
9.2. The downloaded save must be placed on your computer in the GAMES folder where Heroes III is installed.
9.3. Load the save and begin playing at any time convenient for you. Restarting the game is forbidden, and the map can only be completed from the downloaded starting save. Meanwhile, do not forget to make intermediate saves (at least daily saves must be made). These may be requested by the tournament organizer.
9.4. After reaching the final action that leads to victory (final battle, capturing a city, obtaining an artifact, etc.), you must save again.
9.5. A full description of the tournament map is encouraged (optional). If provided, a contest for the best description will be held, and the top 10 (the best) will take their honorable place in the "Feats of Our Best Heroes" section!
9.6. Within the timeframe allotted for this tournament, send this save to the tournament organizer's e-mail address (the address should be specified in the rules of this tournament).
9.7. Wait for the results.

10. The final save should be sent to the e-mail address of organizer Dirty_Player. In the sent save, all heroes must be dismissed except for the hero performing the final action and the hero whose parameters are to be counted (this may be the same hero). A description of the final battle tactics should be sent along with the save.
Save name: the save must contain the player's Nickname, for example: Dirty_Player.gm1.

It is also recommended to leave a message in this thread stating that you have sent the save.

11. The tournament starts 06.03.2010 and will last until 06.04.2010 (up to 23:59:59 inclusive Moscow time). Only one final save is accepted from the player.
Results will be published no later than 10.04.2010.

Good luck!

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SergeyY

16 years ago

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Why are we following the rules of heroesportal and not heroesworld? Could it be because a tournament will also be held on the same map on heroesportal? A few questions. If I understand correctly, we are playing again without a patch that clearly defines morale in battles, when it will and will not be present; we can hire our fallen heroes on another day, use Special Abilities (SA), but without boots and gloves (?); and if without crossing a water barrier, it can only be done once a day, and we also cannot use the ballista, but we can use the hero digger? And a hero who fled from the water, if there is Navigation, beacons, or artifacts that increase speed on the water, can only be bought back on that day to transfer artifacts, but cannot move any further that day. I am writing this because these are important things that we came to after discussion, but they have not yet been added to the rules, so someone might not know and accidentally break the rules.

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Dirty_Player

16 years ago

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SergeyY

Why are we following the rules of heroesportal and not heroesworld?

So that people like you don't ask why we're playing without a patch :D
And why are we following the portal's rules? Because, in my opinion, their current version is the most successful, balanced, and complete.

There's no need to argue here, so calm down. You CAN hire your fallen heroes on the next day.

Ivanhoj

16 years ago

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The map author has a unique sense of humor. Try playing without testing the map in the editor first. You'll spend ages looking for a way through.

Barsik13

16 years ago

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What does the Van Canninghem tournament look like overall? Where can I read about it? I already have a final save file ready, but there's still a day or two to shave off. Anyway, I've decided to participate in the 3rd stage. :)

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Dirty_Player

16 years ago

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Barsik13

How does the Vankaningham Tournament look overall? Where can I read about it?
I already have a final save file ready, but there's still time to shave off another day or two. In general, I accepted participation in stage 3. :)

This year, for some reason, no General statistics are being kept for all stages. :(
Here is a thread with results from previous years:
/topic/2077/

SergeyY

16 years ago

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An unappealing map (in terms of aesthetic perception). The eye enjoys a beautiful natural landscape, with diverse elements, and so on, but here there's just one thing: snow and frost everywhere. You could freeze to death.

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Ivanhoj

16 years ago

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SergeyY

The map isn't aesthetically pleasing. The eye enjoys beautiful natural landscapes, variety, and so on, but here it's just snow and ice everywhere... You could freeze to death.

:D And I was wondering what would stop Sergey this time? Yes, your feet get stuck in the snow. And the tents are scattered in such a way that it's difficult to even calculate the theoretical minimum. There's something to think about.;)
2. Barsik! I'm participating too!

SergeyY

16 years ago

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what could possibly prevent Sergey?

What do you mean by "prevent"? Nothing prevents me. There are just maps that are enjoyable to play on, with beautiful landscapes. And then there are maps that aren't. A continuous snow cover everywhere is probably the worst option in terms of aesthetics.

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For some reason, whenever I express any opinion about a map, even something that seems completely harmless – like commenting on its aesthetics – some people immediately twist it into me saying that "something is preventing me" from enjoying it. But that's just not true!

By the way, the map "King of the Minotaurs" was very beautiful, and it was enjoyable to play on. If it weren't for the anti-magic garrison that unbalanced its gameplay, it would have been perfect! I would have said that it was the best map of all the ones I've seen.

Ivanhoj

16 years ago

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Nothing bothers me. There are just maps that are enjoyable to play on, with beautiful landscapes. And there are maps that are not so beautiful.

Well, sorry. I completely agree with what was said above. It's just that, in my opinion, the map is beautiful. Personally, I don't like muddy landscapes. They make me feel gloomy. (IMHO)

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Barsik13

16 years ago

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2. Ivanhoj: I'm also glad you're participating – let's fight in the second tier. 2. Sergey: Don't be mad, but I also had the idea to joke, but I held back (I wanted to write about hooves stuck in the snow, but Ivanhoj got ahead of me). I repeat: don't be mad, show a good result, and then share your saves.

Pradromalo

16 years ago

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. The sequence of actions for participating in the tournament:
Quote: 9.1. Download the save file.
9.2. The downloaded save file must be placed on your computer in the GAMES folder of your installed Heroes III.
9.3. Load the save file and start playing at any time that is convenient for you. Restarting the game is prohibited, and you can only play the map from the downloaded starting save. At the same time, do not forget to make intermediate saves (at least daily saves). The tournament organizer may request them.
9.4. After reaching the last action that leads to victory (final battle, capturing a city, obtaining an artifact, etc.), you must save again.
9.5. A complete description of the tournament map is encouraged (not required). If there are any, a competition will be held for the best description, and the top 10 will take their rightful place in the "Feats of Our Best Heroes" section!
9.6. Within the time limit for playing in this tournament, send this save file to the tournament organizer via e-mail (the address should be specified in the rules of this tournament).
9.7. Wait for the results to be announced.

Does this mean that the map must be completed in one go? Is it not allowed to save the game and continue playing the next day?

SergeyY

16 years ago

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Of course not. What did you expect?

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Kash

16 years ago

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SergeyY

Of course, you can't. What did you expect?

Why are you lying?

Pradromalo, what is meant is that you can only start with this specific starting save. If you create another starting save with the same map, the contents of the objects, the skill tree, etc., will change, so you can't do that.
As you progress, you can save as many times as you want and replay the same battle several times to achieve the optimal result. No one ever completes a map offline in one go. I hope I explained it clearly.