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What shall we name the establishment?
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“Flooding.” Simple and effective
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Leave it as is – “Fludnyak”
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“A den of debauchery.” How original!
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This is a sacrifice, not less for more, but more for less.
And so it is everywhere, except in the Free Cities (and even then, relatively) and Ferelden (and only in relation to the Banns, i.e., the nobility). It's dark fantasy, injustice is everywhere.
Should I quote Cullen?
Again, there are many rumors. It's not a fact that they are not spread by the same blood mages.
Exactly, everywhere there are only fools who cannot be cured, only Meredith is smart, standing beautifully in a white coat.
Anders is a fool who didn't learn the elementary lessons taught in the Circle, and that's why he failed and lost control of himself.
I absolutely agree. If he listened less to the church's nonsense about Andraste and good spirits, he would have understood what was what.
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Dark fantasy, injustice everywhere.
But the nobility in other countries is more stable. Their ruler cannot suddenly become possessed and do all sorts of terrible things.
Exactly, everywhere there are only fools who cannot be cured, only Meredith is smart, standing beautifully in a white coat.
You should understand that those in power are rarely liked. So, the criticism is inappropriate.
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But the nobility in other countries is more stable. Their ruler cannot suddenly become possessed and do all sorts of terrible things.
But the rulers of Thedas don't become possessed, at least not on a massive scale. Doesn't this suggest that mages can monitor the behavior of their peers themselves?
You should understand that those in power are rarely liked.
And it also subdues mages who have undergone torture, which is forbidden in all other Circles.
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But the rulers of Tevinter do not become possessed, at least not on a massive scale. Doesn't this suggest that mages can also monitor the behavior of their peers?
Not on a massive scale. But they are not immune. As for controlling mages, let me remind you about Uldred; he successfully concealed himself for a while, and then a good half of the circle became possessed.
And she also subdues mages who have undergone trials, which is forbidden in all other Circles.
I think this is acceptable. Grace also underwent trials, but she practiced blood magic. But, despite her obviously evil alignment, she was not subdued. Therefore, they only subdued those who were obviously involved in dark deeds, or it was the "templars' own initiative." Have you forgotten about Ulrich and his brethren?
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You are harassing me.
My sword, my trusted ally, unphased by my aspect.
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Lack of attention?
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Not on a large scale - no. But they weren't immune. As for controlling mages, I'll remind you about Uldred; he successfully concealed himself for a while, and then a good half of the circle became possessed.
Tevinter is the oldest state in this world. And so far, nothing more extreme than what happened in the "safe Circles for humans" has occurred there, such as: mass possession, the destruction of dozens of mages/Templars, and so on. What arguments could there be?
But, despite her obviously evil alignment, she wasn't subdued.
Not obvious. In any case, when she was in the Cagemasters, she complained about her difficult fate, but no more. I don't think the Templars knew about anything more.
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What arguments could there be here?
They didn't have anything similar (it's common knowledge, note!) due to the conflicts between the masters and, I draw your attention to this, the presence of their own temple guards. But life is quite difficult for "non-mages" there, because at any moment they might resort to violence.
I don't think the temple guards knew about anything more.
Well, perhaps her nature wasn't as strongly displayed there. But this doesn't change the fact that a mage who has undergone torture can practice blood magic.
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They didn't have anything like that (it's well-known, mind you!) because of the infighting among the Templars, and, I draw your attention to this, because they had their own Templar forces.
If all the Templars had done something like what Trask was planning, it would have been a utopia. I'm saying this because the Templars in Thedas are probably more moderate.
But life is pretty bad for "non-mages" there, because they can be forced into blood magic at any moment.
They won't just use any slave for blood magic – it's expensive. So, the probability of being used for blood magic is no higher than the probability that in Orlais, a knight will seduce his daughter, in the Free Marches, a bandit will kill him, or he will die of poverty in Antiva, or that he will be sold into slavery to assassins with their deadly training programs, etc.
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My point is that the Templars in Thedas are probably more moderate.
That's because they are subordinate to the Mages and the Church, unlike in the rest of Ferelden.
So, the probability of being killed is no higher than in Orlais, where a knight might seduce his daughter, in the Free Marches, where a bandit might slit his throat, or in Antiva, where he might die of poverty, or be sold into slavery to assassins with their deadly training programs, etc.
It's higher, Feainriel himself wrote from Thedas that magic is used absolutely freely there, and they could really use some control. Note that this is written by a mage who didn't want to end up in the Circle.
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Well, they are subordinate to the Mages and the Church, not like in the rest of Ferelden.
And what brilliant results did that yield?
Above, Fainriel himself wrote from Thedas that magic is used absolutely freely there, and they could really use some control. Note that this is written by a mage who didn't want to end up in the Circle.
Narrow-minded thinking. Many want to bring back Stalin, even though he would have them executed first.
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And what brilliant results did it yield, huh?
The infighting between mages who view non-mages as slaves and a source for blood magic? What a brilliant result!
Many want to bring back Stalin, even though he would have been the first to execute them.
Those who aren't being shot by Stalin now are being killed by gangsters, for example. And in Thedas, a mage can calmly kill a person in the street, as Fenris wrote.
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Those who are not being shot by Stalin now are being killed by gangsters.
Небо – мольбы не ждёт
Небо – угроз не слышит
Небо – ведёт особый счёт
Небо – тебя найдёт

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The conflict between mages who view non-mages as slaves and a source for blood magic? A brilliant outcome!
I already mentioned that things aren't much better elsewhere, of course, if we disregard your exaggeration.
And in Tevinter, a mage calmly kills a person in the street, as Fenris wrote.
Another mage. And not in the street, but in a duel. The same practice exists among nobles in other countries.
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Another mage. And not in the street, but in a duel. The nobility in other countries practice the same.
Do they use their servants as guinea pigs, or for performing magical rituals? I don't think so.
I already mentioned that things aren't much better in other places, of course, if you disregard your exaggeration.
Better, at least because Thedas has the flaws of ordinary states, but unlike the rest of Ferelden, it also has the flaws of a magocracy. By the way, they don't excel in military terms either; it's a pity that the Qunari aren't interested in their destruction at the moment.
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