2007 YEAR IN REVIEW — Rating systems.

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Single choice Public votes Closed 2008-03-15

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vbn

12% 6 votes

Alex_R

6% 3 votes

Kamikaze

10% 5 votes

IronAxe

4% 2 votes

Fireball

10% 5 votes

Sage

0% 0 votes

Perpolken

10% 5 votes

VDV_Forever

14% 7 votes

BigAke

2% 1 vote

Romanuel

2% 1 vote

DmitriyAS

2% 1 vote

Qwerty

8% 4 votes

Undergrounder

4% 2 votes

Radik

2% 1 vote

Lexx

0% 0 votes

Dirty_Player

4% 2 votes

Zingel

0% 0 votes

AlexeyPank

4% 2 votes

Ley

0% 0 votes

Kyle

6% 3 votes

Kamikaze

18 years ago

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Dear friends, I present to you the results of last year!
So, let's start...

1. Best player of the year - vbn (Homo Homini) - 1166.6 points
2. Winner of the John van Caneghem Tournament - Fireball (free agent) - XXX points
3. Most versatile player - vbn (Homo Homini)
4. Best player according to HOMM1 - Alex_R (Homo Homini) - 516.2 points
5. Best player according to HOMM2 - Qwerty (Order of Phoenix) - 361.7 points
6. Best player according to HOMM3 - Perpolken (free agent) - 602 points
7. Best player according to HOMM4 - IronAxe (Alliance of Light) - 200 points
8. Best player according to HOMM5 - Kamikaze (E Pluribus Unum) - 177.5 points

Well... some people should start preparing their medals :)

Fireball

18 years ago

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The seven nominations are clear, but what does "Most Versatile Player" mean?

Ley

18 years ago

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Probably, this is the player who, across all tournaments, has played the most games and performed the best overall in various parts of the game. A versatile player, so to speak.

Kamikaze

18 years ago

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yes, the most difficult part was identifying the best candidate, and you are right
there were seven contenders:
vbn, IronAxe, Alex_R, Firball, BigAke, Romanuel, AlexeyPank - these are the people who participated in all versions
...the last three were eliminated immediately, their comparative results were too weak.
...Alex_R has a weak result in the fourth version (14th place out of 19)
...three remained
...the total scores for the places taken in each version favor vbn. 27 against 30 for IronAxe and 32 for Fireball.
...furthermore, Fireball is 14th in the third version... which is not bad out of 80 participants, but still. IronAxe is 5th, and vbn is 2nd.
...in three out of five versions, Fireball is ranked higher than vbn and, therefore, lower in two. In turn, vbn is ahead of IronAxe in four out of one.
...and finally, the average score: 83 for vbn and 80 for Fireball.

based on all of the above, I concluded that the first place in this category should be given to the respected vbn.

Sincerely, Kamikaze!

Fireball

18 years ago

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2Kamikaze
You're a beast, I would never have taken on such a nomination.

In reply to Ley

Alex_R

18 years ago

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Fireball;156758

With seven nominations, it's clear, but what is "Most Versatile Player"?

+1
Since only offline achievements were considered, it would be more logical to add "Most Versatile Player in the offline category".
The same applies to the nomination:
1. Best offline player of the year

Ley;156762

Probably, it's a player who has played games from various parts more often and better than the others in the total number of tournaments. A versatile player, so to speak.

And Ley was on the right track... but I see that no one picked up on it:smile48:
In general, I see that online play is completely ignored here:smile13:
Congratulations to all the nominees!!! except for #4:smile06:

Kamikaze

18 years ago

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Yes, as Alexander correctly pointed out, I only calculated the "offline mode".
Since I don't have the time or opportunity to do this online, and it's generally a difficult task to calculate online performance... if anyone can do this objectively, then I respect them.

In reply to Kamikaze

Alex_R

18 years ago

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Let's have a vote, or maybe the Moderators of each section can organize a poll or a manual analysis...
For example, I'll try to share my knowledge:
Heroes 1 - online is unavailable (which is a pity:smile39:)
Heroes 2 didn't have online in 2007 (but it's developing now)
Heroes 3 online nominees: Uran Dudge... and maybe someone else...
Heroes 4 online nominees: Luchik Leshiy and someone else
Heroes 5 online is also just developing...
It's "difficult" to choose the best online player of the year - because, if I'm not mistaken, out of the two online versions, no one actively played in either of them... or so it seems...
And finally, the most important nomination - Best Player of the Year... it should include both offline and online achievements, and for all parts of the game...

RAPER

18 years ago

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and finally, the most important nomination - Best Player of the Year... it should include both offline and online achievements, and across all parts of the game...

I agree with this =) but the selection pool is too small here..
Look:
vbn - offline from part 1 to 5 / online, I think from part 2 to 3 (or 4)
Alex_r - the same + part 5
Kamikaze - the same (but only up to part 3 due to internet connection)...
(sorry if I forgot anyone) although I might be wrong =)
The other players are not versatile... i.e., those who play offline often don't play online, and vice versa... or they don't have the opportunity to play online... also, not everyone plays all parts of the game....
So the choice is too small =D
But otherwise, I agree =);)

Kamikaze

18 years ago

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by Alex_R
Heroes 3 online nominees: Uran Dudge... and maybe someone else...

:D :D :D who could it be...:rolleyes:

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Kamikaze

18 years ago

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Alex_R;157012

Let's have a vote, or maybe the moderators of each game can organize a poll or a personal analysis...
For example, I'll try to share my knowledge:
Heroes 1 - no online version available (which is a pity:smile39:)
Heroes 2 - no online version in 2007 (but it's developing now)
Heroes 3 - online nominees: Uran Dudge... and maybe someone else...
Heroes 4 - online nominees: Luchik Leshiy and someone else
Heroes 5 - also only developing...
It's "tough" to choose the best online player across all versions for the past year - because, if I'm not mistaken, out of the two online versions, no one was actively playing in either... or so it seems...
and finally, the most important nomination - Best Player of the Year... it should include both offline and online achievements, and for all games...
P.S. That's all from me! - if someone can handle all this, I respect them... if not, I'm ready to vote.

As Erast Petrovich used to say:
- you can't solve these questions with polls, that's one
- except for Heroes 3 in 2007, there was no online version, that's two
- even for Heroes 3, only two tournaments were held... the rest were friendly games, that's three
and I honestly don't know how you can determine the winners here...

Qwerty

18 years ago

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The moderator conducted analytical research and concluded that there will be no nomination in the second online Heroes game in 2007 due to the lack of candidates :)))
As for the third online game, vitalic seems to deserve it...

In reply to Kamikaze

Alex_R

18 years ago

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Kamikaze;157172

- such questions cannot be resolved by polls, that's one thing

Criticism is not accepted - because there is no alternative option... suggest something, and then we can "cut off" the voting.

Kamikaze;157172

- besides the third game in 2007, there was no online presence, that's two

Disinformation!!! ... even I (not a fan of Heroes 4) know that there were at least two, if not three, online tournaments for Heroes 4.

Kamikaze;157172

- even for the third game, only two tournaments were held... the rest were friendly matches, that's three

Not quite!!! ... I believe there were two full-fledged tournaments and one season ("Winter").

Kamikaze;157172

and I honestly don't know how to determine the winners here...

I think we need to determine how many points one victory is worth (for example, 3) - and count each potential contender...
But how to link online with offline is more complicated... Adelaide had some ideas... how many offline rating points correspond to 1 RO online...

Ley

18 years ago

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Guys, all of this is great, of course. But just tell me and explain – is this question really that important? What’s the point? We’ll identify the ABSOLUTE leader, so what happens next? A medal for it, or what?
Yes, people will know who the best is, absolutely the best. But he might not be stronger than someone in a specific area... and the title sounds so grand... But the people who could claim the "throne" are already known, not just on our forum ;).

In my opinion, the best Kamikaze players have already been listed, IMHO.

Kamikaze

18 years ago

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Basically... if anyone is interested, feel free to check out the online rating. But I'll say this right away: don't tie it to the offline game. PS: In my subjective opinion, the rating for the "online mode" should be calculated starting from 2008. But even for that, we need to introduce a "calculation system" first.