Posts from Suggestion for a friendly resource. Worth discussing!

So, I hope everyone has noticed that lately, more and more players from other resources have been joining us. The instances have become more frequent. Overall, it's an interesting trend. ;)

Today, new players from heroes.by appeared (not to be taken as advertising;)). There was a very interesting conversation with one of them, during which it turned out that this resource is interested in establishing contact with our resource for online games, specifically Heroes 3. The main issue is the version. Players from heroes.by play on the TE (The Eastern) version. They are not opposed to SOD (Shadow of Death) either, but they play TE among themselves. We don't yet have much popularity for this version, for many reasons.

They also said that we don't have a well-defined system for online games. I agree, everything is still in the development stage for us. We may have our own system in the future. However, I think that learning from others' experiences and cooperation has never hurt anyone.

In this regard, I suggest that all our players consider the offer from this resource, listen to what they can offer us, and see if we have players who want to play. And so on.

For now, everyone can discuss this together in this thread. I also think it would be worth informing the Creator about this proposal.

Please share your thoughts.

Players of heroes.by play on TE. They don't refuse SOD either, but they play TE among themselves. We don't have much popularity for this version yet, for many reasons.

I ask you to express your opinion.

You have many players who love and play SOD, why don't they try playing TE? Here is a link to everything about TE. (This is a modified SOD by a group of enthusiasts, on which many Tournaments are held. For example, all the open championships of St. Petersburg with a prize fund)

http://forum.heroesleague.ru/viewtopic.php?t=985&start=0

The question is not that we want to impose something alien. It's just that this game has the same gameplay, but it is more convenient (it requires less time, as fewer clicks are made - there are convenient buttons, for example, to split/combine a stack, transfer an army. all this is done with one click)

Here is a file in which ALL the differences between TE and SOD 3.2 are described
http://www.heroesleague.ru/show/1288/TE_Manual_rus.doc

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Here is an example of a similar match.
on our website
http://www.forum.heroes.by/viewtopic.php?t=529&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

On the website of those who challenged us
http://heroescommunity.com/viewthread.php3?TID=22982

(I hope the moderators won't consider this as advertising)

we provide all the links on our website, including links to your website.

I ask you to express your opinion on what framework you see a possible match in.

Let Tanya post here in this thread. Players will be found, if needed ;) – don't doubt it...

mm... it is necessary to create a small table of strength and the number of players. players = )););) - you can even do it for each tournament.

2 RAPER:
It's quite difficult to do, even with the current rating. Offline and online play are very different. What are we talking about?
Sorry, I just saw that we're talking about online play...

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It will still be problematic to create a table, as the current rating does not reflect the player's actual strength. And the online player rating is not yet complete (((

...well, we'll rely on the data we have at the moment... =)) I'll try to create it using soy (but not all players will be included), so if anyone knows about the strength of a player who isn't in the table, please let me know via ACE =););)

About TE
in general, I'm in favor of tournaments on TE =)) it's a pity that many people don't have it....=)) ;)

Small rating
here's a rough draft
But I'll say right away, this is just my opinion... and this ranking was formed based on my perception of the player and their game (even if I haven't played with them)...
1 Alex_R 1
1 Uran 1.2
2 Lexx 1
2 Dudge 1
2 vbn 1
3 KamiKaze 1
3 vuzzza 2
4 Invisible 1
4 BotINKI 1
4 Ta Kotoraya... 1
4 lopetos 1.3
4/5 GerbERT 1
4/5 ewgeniy 1
5 RAPER 1.3 (it turned out to be not so modest, but I can't evaluate my own game because I'm not a consistent player... so I'm in the middle)
5 CrasH 1.5
5 Geksorin 1.5
5 Amster 1.5
5/6 Мозай 1
5/6 K0Lb@zzeR 1
5/6 Аделаида 1
6 Doka 1.5
6 FreeZtyleR 1
6 GRAMM 1
6 KleopatR 1
6 RAUL 2
7 Electric 1
7 Tieru 2
7 Master_Vitaly 2
7 Мео 2

the numbers on the left are the place in the ranking
the numbers on the right are the level of play... (i.e., if two players have 1, then - in my opinion, they play approximately the same - and if it's a fractional number, then the player is that many tenths weaker than those with 1 - the smaller the tenths, the less he is behind the player above)

But this is just my IMHO, so judge as you like...

Total: 29 online players. How did you determine the ranking? Since you can't judge someone's gameplay based on their personality alone. I suggest using the online ranking tables that Kamikaze provided to all of us.

it was based on the player's skill level (in SoY)... as well as their wins and losses... and of course, on their personality. There are also many rumors about different players... and I also relied on them))))

I fully support the idea of our portals collaborating. If you need any help from me, feel free to ask. And all links in this thread will not be considered advertising and will not be subject to removal.

I read the first two posts and was about to write my own comment when I started reading the following ones and didn't understand their meaning at all ;) (no offense). I still don’t understand what someone’s subjective rating has to do with it? Oh well:)
I know the heroes.by website; in fact, I have almost finished reading it. Honestly, I learned a lot and significantly improved my gameplay by reading reports from such strong players. It is very nice that you made this offer.

In general, they also said that we don't have a clearly defined system for online games. I agree; everything is in its early stages. We may develop our own system over time. However, I think that other people's experience and cooperation have never hindered anyone.

+1000!!! Respect. We are currently only starting to form ranked online games, and we would be very grateful if you could help us refine them. We will listen to your advice, which you provide in this topic /topic/3516/

Please express your opinion on what framework you see as possible for a match.

Yes, and will it be the same thing as you did with the champions of England?)))
Maybe you can start by participating in a game for our ranking? Personally, I’d rather lose nine out of ten games against a strong opponent and win one (if I get lucky:)), but gain invaluable experience. I think that would be better at first; otherwise, we will just argue here, which might not lead to anything. You can read about our rating in the first five topics at this link /forum/section/62/

Honestly, I don't understand what the problem is.....
"Interested in contacting our resource" — there is a special thread where people arrange to play TE, get their contact info from there and reach out.
If you want to organize a tournament with HeroesWorld, form teams and play....
If you want a tournament not resource versus resource, but a mixed one for the individual standing of each player separately — register with us, we have just started a system of non-tournament Player Rating that takes into account every reported game. So, if you don't like this rating and you want us to play according to yours (which, in my understanding, would require registering with you), then pardon me, how can this not be seen as advertising?
Nevertheless, I ask you to take my words as IMHO, and I want to say that I understand — the world of Heroes is, ideally, one, and the main thing is that as many players as possible meet, play, develop new tactics, etc., and it doesn't really matter where or under the banner of which resource this happens. But I'm such a "tough nut" resident of HeroesWorld, I want the friendly resource to specify their wishes: what do they want from us — an official tournament, just friendly games, rating games, and explain what the problem is; has anyone stopped them from playing with our players? In short, it's unclear why this thread was created.

Of course, thank you all, on behalf of Forrest! But I want to point out that I'm not a conservative, and I don't think we don't need technical support. I've played, tested it, it's an interesting thing, but it's not a competitor to The Shadow of Death, that's my personal opinion. And we're always happy to play with you. Let's learn from each other! Always welcome!!!

But I'm such a "nasty" resident of HeroesWorld, I want a friendly resource to specify their wishes, what they want from us: an official tournament, just friendly games, rated games, and explain what the problem is, is someone preventing them from playing with our players?

Perhaps you are not aware here :) . But expecting a response from a "friendly resource" as a single structural unit is useless. You see, we have anarchy mixed with dictatorship here :D . The dictatorship is expressed in the fact that someone who does something for others can openly disregard the opinions of those very others. And the anarchy is expressed in the fact that even ordinary forum participants, those who do something for others, and even moderators and administrators can be easily told to go wherever (and they are told, quite regularly :) ). So the question about specifying wishes should be addressed directly to Papik and Forrest, and whether their wishes coincide with the wishes of the other players of heroes.by is unknown to science.

Yes, we heard ;)
Various proposals came from that resource, but in general, that's not the main issue... what they offer to each individual, I don't think it's worth discussing in this thread, and in general, let everyone decide for themselves. It's a different matter what they offer to our entire resource, but personally, I still don't understand from post #1 of this thread (What is the specific proposal?).

In general, they also said that we don't have a clearly developed system for online games. I agree, everything is in the development stage for us. We may have our own system. Over time. However, I think that external experience and cooperation have never hindered anyone.

Indeed, the fact that our online presence is in the development stage, I think no one denies, and that the exchange of "wisdom" is also a useful thing, but in my opinion, they are a little off target. I'll explain:
1. As I understand it, they want to unite players who will professionally play Heroes 3 online, and most likely not on our resource, but on theirs ;)
2. They seem to already have a system that they use, and they are possibly trying to implement it. It is indeed at a more advanced level than ours, but only because it is more established, but because of its clarity, it loses in attractiveness, as diversity is limited. This is good for competitions, but bad for Heroes.
3. As for me personally:
- I am not ready to play Heroes professionally (in my opinion, this is impossible)
- I am also not interested in studying and adopting their system, even though it has partially already spread to our forum ;)
- I am not against playing and exchanging experiences (to the best of my ability)
I agree with Adelaide and Kamikaze on this issue! :)

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So, the question of clarifying the desires should be asked to Papik and Forrest, and whether their desires will coincide with the desires of the other heroes.by players is unknown.

There isn't really a question - it's just that further development of this topic is impossible due to the lack of a specific proposal.
As I understand it, the purpose of your post was to inform that you (as the Administrator) of that resource are not authorized to answer for the proposal made by (Papik and Forrest)?

As I understand it, the purpose of your post was to inform that you (as an Administrator) of that very resource are not in a position to answer for the proposal made by (Papik and Forrest)?

You're wrong, the purpose of my post was to tell Adelaide that her wish "for a friendly resource to specify the proposal" is poorly worded :)
Actually, it's well-worded, but poorly feasible :)