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What steps should the developers take regarding Heroes 5?
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Make minor improvements and release it by the end of March
15.4% 10 votes
Refine bug fixes more carefully and postpone the release date.
29.2% 19 votes
Careful refinement, postponement of release, another test, further refinement, release
55.4% 36 votes
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20 years ago
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The global Community of fans awaiting Heroes 5 has announced a campaign against the release of Heroes 5 on the announced date, so that the developers can finish the game completely. The forums of Nival and many other forums were overflowing with topics about the bugs found in the Heroes 5 beta. Many errors and bugs were found by testers. And the international Community even created the website saveheroes.org, where anyone who wants to and protests against the unfinished game can leave their signature.

But in reality, no one knows what the situation is at Nival. The beta was released for a reason. Perhaps the developers wanted to see the reaction of the fans. In general, a lot of bugs and errors were found in the Heroes 5 beta, imbalances were discovered, and now Nival needs to fix all this. Let's hope they do, and everything will be great - "Heroes 5 will become a masterpiece."

I would also like there to be another beta test after all the found issues are fixed, which would reassure the fans and new flaws would be found, after which a "masterpiece" would be released.

In this topic, you can discuss everything about the improvements to Heroes 5. Your suggestions, etc.
I am also adding a poll to this topic.
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20 years ago
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This is just the West panicking. :) Maybe it's even artificially inflated popularity for Heroes, which is usually achieved through a scandal. In my opinion, there are no really critical bugs. After all, this is a beta. Here, you need to find errors to help the developers and say what you don't like. In general, I'm not against a longer development cycle. It's better to wait a little longer and have fewer bugs...
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20 years ago
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Panic is not unwarranted. Moreover, these are the largest websites, and they shape the public's opinion about the game. The fact that saveheroes.org has already been visited by over 40,000 people, and over 2,000 signatures have been collected, is something to think about. As for the voting, I'm in favor of option 3. I'd rather wait, but let them release a masterpiece. After all, can you name even one Blizzard game that was released on time? But they all became masterpieces. As for the problems, the main problem, in my opinion, is the skills. There are outright overpowered skills and outright useless ones. Plus, the skill system, where they offer random skills... Here's an example. A Ranger can get Absolute Luck at level 5!!!! And how do you balance that? Every hit with luck is overpowered. Or Tent/Ballistics – if you get this skill, you'll be able to resurrect dragons/kill dragons, but if you don't, you'll feel like an idiot. There is a solution, though. But then everyone will complain about it being an RPG. Namely, give players a choice of all the skills (like in Neverwinter Nights) and let the player choose what they need. Reduce the number of levels for upgrading, for example, to 20, and let them choose the most essential ones. Then the game will become very tactical. You can really assess the player's potential. If they do that, I'm all for it. It would be good to return to the classic hero interface. Because the one proposed by Nival, in my opinion, is terrible. Or, better yet, remove all the buttons and assign all the controls to the mouse (again, Neverwinter Nights). I would choose the classic hero interface. And, of course, increase the size of the battlefield. And abandon area-of-effect attacks by units. This is the worst simplification of tactics. You hit a dragon, and everyone gets roasted. You need to distribute damage with your troops wisely, and not suffer with this nonsense. Remove the racial special abilities, except for necromancy. It turned out to be nonsense. There are racial special abilities, but the magic is the same for all races. It's stupid.
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20 years ago
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My voice has been added to the petition! I am 2182 out of 2278 at the time of this post! The petition is not the result of panic or hype! The proposed HOMM5 is a raw, unstylish, and ugly product! I am not against innovation, but let them balance it! We can wait a year for that!
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20 years ago
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I also signed up – my vote is the 2051st since the beginning;)...

:2:White Hawk: You're exaggerating about a year, but waiting half a year, in my opinion, is quite possible... easily...:D
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20 years ago
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Yes. It's a bit rough around the edges, but that's what betas are for...

Let Ubi give Nival more time. If they keep working on it, it will be a great game. And another round of testing wouldn't hurt either.
I'm voting for the 3rd option...
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20 years ago
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My 381st.
A year is fine. The main thing is that the final result pleases the eye.
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20 years ago
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Well... UbisSoft is seriously considering the circumstances surrounding the beta. Here are some screenshots illustrating what's happening. UbiSoft hasn't officially announced a delay yet, but you can already see some changes on their official website:

For example, Heroes of Might and Magic V is no longer listed in the "coming soon" section, so I think the campaign was successful...
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20 years ago
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It definitely needs work, but they need to focus on improving the game. As I've said before, I don't like the current interface, so I'm willing to wait another six months to get back to what it used to be, or at least make it look less generic. Look at the inventory in MM6-8 – it was simply amazing.

Here's a screenshot of a fully equipped Necromancer from www.HeroesWorld.ru:

This is truly beautiful. Of course, the HMM series has always had a simpler interface, but I liked everything about Heroes 3...
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I also agree that we should wait. This is one way to help the developers. Why yell in their ears that the game isn't finished when they already know it?

They'll finish it when they're ready, and then they'll release it. Look at how long they worked on Doom 3... and the same with Warcraft, how much testing they did...

As for the interface, if it were like the interface in Might and Magic 6-8, I would be all for it - I haven't seen such a beautiful inventory anywhere else.
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20 years ago
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Katrine
My 381.
A year is fine. The main thing is that the final result pleases the eye. :)
It pleases the eye even now - but a beautiful wrapper isn't the main thing; it would be better if the final result pleased the MIND!!! :)
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Yeah... things have taken a very serious turn. Unfortunately, I haven't seen anything besides screenshots, but I think, given how many people are upset, there must be a reason. I would, of course, like to see the game sooner rather than later, but I also don't want to play an unfinished product. I'll vote for the third option. I hope we won't have to wait much longer than the announced release date. Maybe they'll even release "compilations" later on.
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20 years ago
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I am completely in favor of postponing and refining the game! We wouldn't want Heroes 5 to join the already long list of games that were released in an unfinished state and required patches the very next day after release.
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Well, we'll just have to wait for the release of the original game, and whenever it comes out, the main thing is that it's of high quality! Otherwise, you look at the alpha version and it makes you feel bad... :mad:
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