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In the topic Description of the nation
The admin wrote that demons would like to burn the world to ashes...
I understand that the information was taken from the Nival website...
But I am categorically against this statement...

Demons absolutely do not need this...

here is a little about why they don't need it:
The Queen lays many eggs, and from them the demons appear. She is fertile, but not every egg produces a demon. The eggs lie until the Plane of Evil releases a new soul. Souls entering the plane are, as if in a cauldron, boiled in their own rage. Remnants of stupid prejudices burn away in the cleansing flame of hatred and pain. And when there is nothing superfluous left in the soul, it leaves the Plane and penetrates into the laid egg. Only after that does the egg begin to develop. An un-ensouled egg can lie for a long time, but not forever, and many die. Truly foolish are those who claim that demons dream of destroying all living things, because then they would also end their own kind.

In the topic description, the admin wrote that the demons would like to burn the world to ashes...
I understand that the information was taken from the Nival website...
But I strongly disagree with what the admin said.

Your two statements contradict each other.

If demons burn the world to ashes, they will destroy all life,
thus they will destroy themselves!
And they are, after all, intelligent beings...

Here is some more information about demons and, in particular, about the Krigans...

Our unforgettable ancestral home, Hell. A world of strange properties. Your sun scorches with unbearable heat, looming directly overhead. The flames of its red fire almost lick the surface of Hell. And the world itself is hot; mountains erupt with volcanoes, and rivers of lava unpredictably change course. But there is life in Hell. There is, thanks to the strange power of the Plane of Hatred. This dimension, permeating the entire Universe, has chosen Hell as its point of concentration. The souls of dead sentient beings nourish this plane with their energy, and with it, the beings living in Hell. Not all the dead give us strength; only those who died harboring hatred, malice, and rage fall into it, but there are many such. This energy makes it possible to live in fire and predatory grass, and in man-eating trees, and in saber-toothed rodents, and in Cerberuses, and in Efreet, and in devils. In Hell, everyone eats everyone. Only sentient beings have formed an alliance in order not to destroy each other. This alliance is called the Krigan.
The Plane of Hatred sometimes allows us to move within it. When a plague or war occurs in some world, so much power flows into the Plane that it becomes possible to penetrate it. So, from the very beginning of the Krigan's existence, we knew about other worlds. Many defeated clans, like mine, found refuge in other worlds, but few wanted to stay there. In other places, the power of Hatred flows into our bodies only in a thin stream, but in Hell, it permeates like a raging torrent. Only the weakness and softness of the local inhabitants give pleasure to being in other worlds. And most importantly, what we learned from these journeys is that hatred of strangers and malice towards our own prevail everywhere. Kill or be killed, the stronger is right – these are the unchanging and only laws of sentient life.
Goodness, love, mercy are false tales invented by you, softies, to justify your powerlessness. But as soon as you feel your power over someone, these silly ramblings immediately fly out of your empty heads. And then you are already clinging to the throat of a weakened enemy. You only show pity to those who will never rise above you; it is safe to pity such. But when the Krigans first began to travel to other worlds, these concepts stirred up many minds. Many horns were broken and many tails were torn off in disputes among the best thinkers about the truth of these ideas. Only the creation of the Mirror of Fire put an end to the disputes, proving the falsehood of goodness. Only rage is true, and with rage, we destroy those who hinder us. But there is no purpose in our destruction of all softies; they are the source of our strength and the means of continuing our race.
For many centuries, we were among the thirteen ruling clans of Hell, and in a few days, we were defeated. The Mirror of Fire, our greatest creation, saved the clan from complete destruction. Now, only the Mirror is our hope. Created by several archdevils directly in the Plane of Hatred, it absorbed the mysterious power of this dimension. Place a sentient being in front of the Mirror, and it will reflect its hatred and malice back at itself. What torments do people invent for themselves! Softies tell how the terrible Krigans tortured King Roland, but they didn't even touch him with the tip of a claw. It was the Mirror that returned his rage to him, increasing it and returning it again. How much power Lucifer gained from these torments. And yet, the Mirror has never reflected mercy or love, which means that there was none of it in any of the millions of beings that sat before it. Only demons are almost not affected by the Mirror; the reflected rage is absorbed by us, and it is difficult to bring softies to Hell. Therefore, having exhausted the reserves of strength, the clan weakened before the purely military power of one of the young clans. Few reserves of strength were used to save the queen, create a ship from an asteroid, and ignite the reactor in its depths with the Mirror.
The queen lays many eggs, from which these spawn of Hell appear. She is fertile, but not every egg produces a Krigan. The eggs lie until the Plane of Hatred releases a new soul. The souls that fall into the Plane, as if in a cauldron, are boiled in their own rage. The remnants of stupid prejudices burn away in the cleansing flame of hatred and pain. And when nothing superfluous remains in the soul, it leaves the Plane and penetrates the laid egg. Only after that does the egg begin to develop. An un-ensouled egg can lie for a long time, but not forever, and many die. From one clutch, both a devil and a Cerberus and a demon can emerge; the mechanism of inheritance is unknown to us. Some philosophers argue that thieves become demons, and hellhounds are those who committed lawlessness, covering themselves with an order, but no one has yet been able to prove this. Truly foolish are those who claim that Krigans dream of destroying all living things, for then we would end our own race. But there are more and more of us, and the wars of the softies are replenishing our ranks, especially the Crusades, after which the number of devils increases sharply. Only females do not need a soul from the Plane; they are born on their own, although very rarely. For many centuries, they mate without producing offspring, accumulating semen in themselves. What orgies are arranged when there is a young female in the clan... But time passes, and the female lays her first clutch, becoming a new queen. She can become the successor of the old one if she is infirm, or, gathering ambitious admirers around herself, found a new clan.
Armageddon's Blade... Fools, you only know part of the truth, although even Lucifer did not know everything. This schism within the clan had been brewing for a long time. After being exiled from Hell, a group of warriors, who decided to reject the power of the Mirror, took the lead of the clan. Philosophers and scientists remained on the sidelines, but they managed to send several devils to the group of Kseron. They, in turn, handed the blacksmith Kazandar a fragment of the Mirror of Fire for inlaying the hilt. The fragment did not affect Kseron, because he is a Krigan, but when the Blade got to Gelu, the properties of the Mirror manifested themselves in full force. The hero's rage multiplied and grew, eclipsing reason. In the end, this led to the well-known cataclysm. Only pitiful remnants remained of the clan; there was no queen, only two young females, and only a couple of years ago, one of them laid her first clutch. The clan is growing, troops are gathering, and when we find the fragment of the Mirror from the hilt of Armageddon's Blade, those who are still left on Antagarich will not be able to stop us...

I agree that it is beneficial for you when people live and nourish hatred, but you still carry out attacks.;) And I can explain why: the mirror of fire has either not yet encountered a worthy person, or it shows the Krigan what they want to see (for clan leaders, this is even politically advantageous), because there are people who are no strangers to love, compassion, honor, and mercy. Such people are few among nobles and even among Knight. They wander the world carrying the word of kindness and spreading it among other people through sermons and good deeds when they were required. The Krigan did not like that their source of power was practically being taken away from them; this is where the eternal enmity between Heaven and Hell began (if judging by Heroes of Might and Magic). It was the demons who struck the first blow. You can claim as much as you want that own goodness is an illusion and a myth, but that is like claiming that the color green does not exist.:)

...the Mirror of Fire has yet to encounter a worthy individual... for there are people for whom love, compassion, honor, and mercy are not alien concepts. There are few of them among the nobility and even among the knights. They wander the world, spreading the word of good and disseminating it among other people through sermons and good deeds, when such are required...
...The first strike was dealt by the demons...

I do not deny the existence of love, good, honor, and all the rest...
But many of you simply invented them for yourselves in order to elevate yourselves in the eyes of others...
But you claim that there are people who are unfamiliar with anger, hatred, and rage... Such creatures are weak; they cannot cope with reality, for there is a law: the strongest survive... And the Mirror of Fire has no need of the weak...
And regarding the attack, I will say this: curiosity drove us.
You, in turn, were frightened, for the unknown is frightening...
First, the monks began to tell people about the demonic offspring...
Then militias began to form against us... A war broke out...
You started this war...

By the way, where did you find this information about demons? If you want to know the truth about the devil, read the Gospel. Demons are not eggs or creatures; they are fallen angels. Long ago, Lucifer, being the most beautiful of the angels, imagined himself to be God, became proud, and began to attract other angels to his side. That's how demons and other evil spirits appeared, and not from some "eggs."

It's like an anthill here.:)

I don't remember exactly where I found it...
I think it was on Nival...
As for the angels, I partially agree with you...

Initially, Demons were fallen angels...
But there was life in Hell, and those who are now called demons lived there...
And these fallen angels captured them, or perhaps tamed them...


As for the elves becoming Native Americans... I agree with Xaker's point of view... but with an addition...
They just watched too many Westerns... :D
They drank too much... :D
And they fell from the tree... :D

Smok, I understand, of course, that imagination is great, but fallen angels (demons) created Hell themselves when they were cast down from heaven. They didn't tame anyone; there were only fallen angels and Lucifer (also known as Belzebub, Satan, or the Devil). You can post "fools, you don't know the truth, and besides, we live in the Matrix!" as much as you want, like some kind of addict. You can't rewrite the scriptures.

It's time to wrap up. There's plenty to read, and nothing left to argue about.