Voting for the location of the CIS-2107 tournament.

MerlinTheMagician

9 years ago

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Let's go.
Dates: May 6 – May 13, 2017 (to accommodate the wishes of participants – on May 13 everyone leaves and gets some rest over the weekend for Monday).

Application number one. Yekaterinburg, congress center "Toliman". http://tolimangroup.ru/
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Application number two. Volgograd, park club "Dubrovsky". http://www.dubrovtur.ru/
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The voting will last exactly 7 days and end on February 5 at 16:01 (so that those who don’t have much opportunity to read the forum during weekdays can vote over the weekend) – just exactly 3 months before the start of the event: we will have time to buy inexpensive plane and train tickets.
Voting is conducted using a points system.
The value of each vote is determined by the total number of CIS Championships attended (with accommodation in the immediate location of the event).
In other words, 1 attended CIS Championship (with accommodation) = 1 point per vote.
3 attended CIS Championships (with accommodation) = 3 points per vote.
5 attended CIS Championships (with accommodation) = 5 points per vote.
No attendance at CIS Championships = 0.3 points per vote, but you must be registered on ХВ for at least one year.

HellLighT

9 years ago

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Kirill, how about adding +5 points to the tournament participants? After all, this isn't just a gathering of people who like to play Heroes and chat, it's the CIS CHAMPIONSHIP in Heroes. You've also turned everything into a joke, so let's do the same: didn't participate = 0.3 points, participated in 3 tournaments = 3 points, participated in 5+ tournaments = 5 points? What do you think? (parenthesis parenthesis, nonsense @`iy) "Let's gather somewhere convenient for the viewers, that would be great, and we can play Heroes online."

iDD

9 years ago

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Currently, the voting looks like this: in Yekaterinburg, we should hold competitions with five players, and in Volgograd, with three :D

Dust_HL

9 years ago

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Regarding the CIS region in 2107, I'm not ready to say anything yet.

Katherine

9 years ago

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MerlinTheMagician

Let's go.
In other words, 1 visited CIS event (with stay) = 1 point per vote.
3 visited CIS events (with stay) = 3 points per vote.
5 visited CIS events (with stay) = 5 points per vote.
Without visiting CIS events = 0.3 points per vote, provided you have been registered on HeroesWorld for at least a year.

And do you remember by heart the number of visited CIS events (with or without stay) for each voter?)

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MerlinTheMagician

9 years ago

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HellLighT

Kirill, how about adding +5 points for the tournament participants? After all, this isn't just a gathering of fans to have a few drinks and chat about the game; it's the CIS Heroes Championship.

I've thought about it. But here's what I came up with. If it weren't for the spectators who come every year, we wouldn't reach the required number of participants, and the price would be twice as high (and a good half of the Heroes players would drop out). In other words, spectators are essential for the players. It's a kind of symbiosis. If there are no spectators, the conference hall will cost two, three, or five times more. If there are no spectators, you won't be able to get discounts on accommodation for a group of 16-20 people.
And the Dendroids Foundation, by the way, which funded your trip to St. Petersburg in 2016, is originally made up of spectators.
We can also remember that the organizers of Kyiv, Michurinsk, partly Yekaterinburg, Odessa, and Volgograd were spectators, not players from the main tournament.

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Katherine

Do you remember by heart the number of CIS cities visited with/without accommodation by each person who voted?)

It's very difficult to calculate... If I don't remember, I'll have to click with the mouse... and look at the rosters from previous years... Or, God forbid, contact the organizers from previous years... Considering that I've been to all of them except Odessa-2013...

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Mee

9 years ago

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Please award me 5 points for Kyiv, Michurinsk, Yekaterinburg, Odessa, and Minsk... and another 5, or even 10, as an organizer of one of the CIS events.

HellLighT

9 years ago

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So, you think that the CIS Championship can exist without the Heroes series, but not without spectators?) You old fool!

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MerlinTheMagician

9 years ago

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HellLighT

So, you think that the CIS Championship can exist without Heroes players, but not without viewers?) You old fool!

Poor young man... It seems that St. Petersburg didn't treat you very well (I understand, I'm still in shock, and I'm thinking about a general regulation!) - and you started to distort things and attribute to me things that I didn't say...
I believe (I repeat for those who are slow), that in the CIS format, Heroes players and viewers are a symbiotic bond that is necessary for each other. Without Heroes players, the CIS won't have an offline event. Without viewers, the CIS won't have an offline event. Because the CIS events were organized by viewers 5 times out of 7.
But here's what I can be sure of. If the Heroes players don't come, then the viewers, for the most part, will be able to organize themselves and have a great time together (Kobra has been dreaming of a party in a warm place for many years). But most of the Heroes players won't be able to afford the standard price and will just play online...
And remember, if a stream doesn't have an audience, then the stream is pointless.

HellLighT

9 years ago

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Yes, to be honest, I raised a fuss because your rating system is quite questionable! In reality, I highly doubt I'll be able to attend this CIS tournament, and therefore I won't vote for now.

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Mee

9 years ago

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Actually, I think all these polls are unnecessary, especially since the votes are roughly equal... it would be simpler to do as Odessa/Minsk did at the time – Minsk simply declined and reserved the following year, resulting in two good CIS events without polls and arguments. I think it would be better to do the same here: the organizers should communicate and decide who will host this year and who will host next year.

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MerlinTheMagician

9 years ago

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HellLighT

To be honest, I raised a fuss because your rating system is quite questionable! In reality, I highly doubt I'll be able to attend this CIS event, so I'm not voting yet.

Interested parties had time to adjust it and offer constructive feedback. Because I informed everyone in advance about the idea of the voting algorithm.
Yes, it is questionable. Because, among other things (anonymous quote): "Maybe in the future, we should completely ban locals from voting? They don't have to buy tickets/travel, etc. They live nearby, so if something happens..."
Therefore, taking all factors into account, I based it on the format of a "qualified voter," regardless of where the person lives. And the only objective criterion I could find is the number of actual visits to the CIS event with accommodation in the immediate location of the event.

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iDD

9 years ago

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Mee

Actually, I think all these polls are unnecessary, especially since the votes are roughly equal... it would be simpler to do what Odessa/Minsk did at the time – Minsk simply declined and reserved the following year, and there were two good CIS tournaments without polls and arguments. I think it would be better to do the same here: the organizers should communicate and decide who will host this year and who will host next year.

That's right, let's divide it.
Yekaterinburg hosts the 5-player tournament – all the votes go there, and Volgograd hosts all the 3-player tournaments :D

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oxygen_hl

9 years ago

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Mee

Honestly, I think all these polls are unnecessary, especially since the votes are roughly equal... It would be simpler to do what Odessa/Minsk did back then – Minsk simply declined and reserved the following year, resulting in two good CIS events without polls and arguments. I think it would be better to do the same here; the organizers should communicate and decide who hosts this year and who hosts next year.

Hmm, and I don't want to go to Ekaterinburg next year either ;)