Ownership rights, or whether it is permissible to use other people's models. — Modding

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8/21/2015 6:47 AM UTC #1

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Hello. I have a somewhat unusual question, and it might be off-topic. I want to transfer the world of Heroes into a real-time mode. To do this, I'm creating a mod for The Lord of the Rings: The Battle for Middle-earth 2. I'm taking models from Heroes 5: Tribes of the East. I want to immediately introduce factions like: Sanctuary, Fortress (Swamp), and Conflux. To do this, I need models from the corresponding mods. Also, I need some units from the NFC project and models of some heroes. I'm not claiming authorship; I'll have to make some minor edits, at least for rigging. Question: who do I need to ask, and do I need to ask permission to use these models? P.S.: Many of the models belong to the user psatkha, and he often visits this forum, so I'm asking here.

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8/31/2015 5:52 AM UTC #2

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The number of visits has exceeded 100. Judging by the lively discussion of my question, I conclude that no one is interested in the authorship of the models. Excellent, then I will take any models, and if their author shows up, I will simply add them to the list of acknowledgments. Thank you.

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8/31/2015 7:28 AM UTC #3

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Haha, I thought psatkha would answer you.
I don't think anyone would object to borrowing models, as long as you credit their source when you publish the mod.
Ideally, it would be even better to contact the authors. There are two points here: you not only ask for permission to use the models but also let them know about your existence. As a result, the model author might mention you somehow, which would increase the mod's popularity.
By the way, the models extracted from the sixth game belong to a user named Zahar; he seems to be on Google+. You can talk to him.

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8/31/2015 8:42 AM UTC #4

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Hello. I have a somewhat strange question, and it might not be entirely relevant.
I want to transfer the world of Heroes into a real-time mode. To do this, I'm creating a mod for The Lord of the Rings: The Battle for Middle-earth 2. I'm taking models from Heroes 5: Tribes of the East. I want to immediately introduce factions like: Sanctuary, Fortress (Swamp), and Conflux. For this, I need models from the corresponding mods. Also, I need some units from the NFC project and models of some heroes. I'm not claiming authorship; I'll have to make some minor edits, at least for rigging. Question: from whom do I need to ask permission, and is it even necessary to ask permission to use these models?
P.S.: Many models belong to the user psatkha, and he often visits here, so I'm asking here.

I don't mind if the project is a fan project and, of course, not commercial!

By the way, do you animate them yourself for The Lord of the Rings: The Battle for Middle-earth 2?!

С уважением, Psatkha (Псатха)

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9/1/2015 5:35 AM UTC #5

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Please address me informally; I'm not a high-ranking official, and I'm not old enough to warrant formal address. Ment, It's not always possible to find the author of a model or mod. I decided to simply indicate the name of the mod, for example: Castle, Conflux, and Sanctuary (only in English). I feel a bit awkward asking for permission, especially since I have no idea if I'll be able to do anything with it. It feels awkward to search and then bother people with such trivial matters. psatkha, Of course, the mod is not for commercial use. Otherwise, I would be punished for using original models from Heroes. Unfortunately, I haven't reached the level of skill to create animations yet, so I'm using local, Lords of the Rings-style animations for the models. Thank you for the quick response. PS: Could you please suggest an emblem for the Conflux faction? I'll change the Fortress one; I already have an idea.

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9/1/2015 9:35 AM UTC #6

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It's hard for me to say anything... I don't know the style of Lord of the Rings, and besides, a global mod like that will definitely change that style. In general, I think that it would be better to start by providing temporary icons, and then, at the end, when the style becomes finally clear, create them "as it should be." Well, it seems to me that it would be easier that way.

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9/1/2015 11:00 AM UTC #7

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It's hard for me to say anything... I don't know the style of Lord of the Rings, and besides, a global mod like this will definitely change that style. In general, I think that at first, it's better to use temporary icons, and then, at the end, when the style becomes finally clear, make them "as it should be." Well, it seems to me that it's easier that way.

Of course, the style is not yet known, and I'm also changing the interface when I feel like it. For example, I posted a picture; for the faction emblems, I take their flags from the tavern. I will take the elementals from the Conflux mod.
Maybe, for the first time, we can make an icon from the "Elemental Equilibrium" skill?