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Something reminded me:
Episode #1.
January 2013, Moscow, a club championship hosted by Nagan. My friend and I celebrated the results of the first round so well that we couldn't participate in the second round due to our health. Nagan tried to wake us up, and I even woke up and, to avoid disrupting the tournament schedule, suggested that we and my friend be randomly assigned in the second round, with the comment, "We'll figure out who goes further."
Nagan agreed without any problems, and the other participants were also aware, but no one raised any objections. Because this is a common practice in club tournaments.
I'm just curious - if my friend or I had won the tournament, would Nagan complain that the champion is illegitimate, that they won through collusion, etc.?
Episode #2
May 2012, Yekaterinburg, CIS Championship.
In the first round, one player is missing to complete the bracket. Bloodliger registers (and pays the entry fee) with the condition that he will be paired with Stinger in the first round. After that, he forfeits without playing. No one has any objections.
And Stinger eventually becomes the champion.
Nagan, do you think it's worth reconsidering your attitude towards Stinger's championship?
Episode #3
January 2011, Kingisepp, qualifier for the CIS-2011 tournament in Michurinsk.
In the semi-finals, I played against Cobra. After about a month of playing on Jebb, the situation was somewhere between a stalemate and a long, drawn-out game. It was already 5 a.m., everyone was tired, and I suggested to Cobra that I concede the victory to him for a certain percentage of the prize money if Cobra wins the tournament. Cobra agreed, the organizer (Napalm) didn't object, and the spectators agreed too. Cobra eventually won the tournament.
I suggest that, in light of the newly revealed circumstances, Cobra's silver medal for the CIS-11 should be annulled, and the entire tournament should be annulled due to the judge's misconduct. Eric, what do you think?
You don't see the difference between a fun tournament and a tournament that determines the best player. Regarding January 2013 in Moscow, that's why I stopped organizing tournaments, because you practically ruined the last one. You and Matrosov, at some point, told me that you would play together. I wasn't feeling well, but unlike you, I wasn't drunk; I was actually running a fever. I didn't have the energy to argue, so I just let it go. Anyone who was at the Moscow tournament can confirm this. I'm not excusing myself, unlike the new CIS champion.
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I'll continue...
Episode #4
January 2013, Moscow, the same long-suffering championship hosted by Nagan. In the semi-finals, there were 3 winners and 1 loser (Nagan). Does that sound familiar?
Pit won his semi-final, and Nagan played against Vitalik for 3 weeks without any interaction, and he thought, "Why should I bother? I'm not going to win anyway," and he let Vitalik into the final. It happens...
Episode #5
May 2013, Odessa, CIS Championship. In the first round, Preds and Scorpion played. After about 5 weeks, they got tired of playing, and the round's deadline was approaching, so they asked me to set a temporary draw for them so that they could finish the first round during the second. The next day, I see that they are not playing, so I ask what's going on. They say that they agreed that if Scorpion wins the second round, Preds will give him the victory in the first.
As a result, Scorpion made it into the shared second place. I think we'll forgive him for that, but he should return three thousand of the prize money.
Episode #6
January 2009, Kingisepp. Mixed tournament, random + fixed heroes.
In the second round, Doberman is paired with Napalm, and they play a fixed game - Land of Magic. Doberman says, "Guys, I haven't even played this LoM, let Wicc play for me." So I played, and I won. And Doberman ended up in the shared second place.
I can't find the old thread about that tournament, but you can read there that there was a draw, and I was paired with Vitalik. Ask Mizrael and Scorpion, they will tell you that I would have played against Vitalik for many reasons, but I couldn't play well with a fever. But I didn't give or take any money. There were dozens of games where a player forfeited before the final battle, but there was never a case where, in a winning situation, someone took money.
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I'm saying that the situation with match-fixing is somewhat similar to the situation with corruption - those with the dirtiest hands shout the loudest, and if they don't, it's only because they haven't had the opportunity.
Many people like to refer to professional sports, but there any of the episodes I described would lead to the disqualification of both players.
Therefore, there is no need to pretend to be Mother Teresa, but to admit that Heroes has its own specifics, and if there is a desire to change this specificity, then it should be done through the regulations, and not through principles. Because, according to principles, the actions of Lizard and Redi are quite consistent with the customs of Heroes tournament practice.
Imagine, there's a Heroes championship, a round starts, and someone says: "Guys, today I'll try to win fairly, but if I start losing, I'll buy the result because I need the main prize, I need the money, it's all normal, that's the custom."
Do you think everyone will say to him, "Sure, buy it! We don't need the money, and we don't need to win the tournament either." No, there will be a huge scandal, at best.
Now they are boasting that they needed the money. But what if the other players also came into debt, and the prize money was just as important to them? Or was a survey conducted to see who needed it and who didn't?
I can imagine the reason for such a conspiracy: many players have ambition that overshadows common sense. But if they were caught, they should definitely apologize, repent, and return the money, remaining with a tarnished reputation as a player. But this was said very well: "...yes, Zhenya, I'm sure. Moreover, I came to the championship with a suitcase full of canned food, and the only way to pay off my debts and continue a normal life was to win the championship... "Could many people "justify" themselves in such a situation? I don't think so..."
And finally, a brilliant "...The champion can endure everything..."
Yes, there is no rule in Heroes that says you can't give money to your opponent. And in any other sport, there is no such rule either, because in any country in the world, there is legislation on fraud.
I understand that a lot of time has passed, but it turned out to be extremely unfair.