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Dear Ganymede, to be honest, I didn't find an answer to my post in your reply. Moreover, you mixed up faith in communism and atheism, which are not necessarily related. I'll attribute it to my misunderstanding, although I suspect you simply avoided answering by using a tautology. But I am surprised by your confidence in your reasoning. After all, you haven't been in the shoes of the people you're talking about, the ones you say are believers! I have to repeat that you are speaking from your intellect, while faith comes from the heart, and no matter what role the mind plays in faith, the source of faith is the heart. How can you talk about faith if you know nothing about it! That is, I assume that you are well-read in history and even know a lot about religion (this is evident), but faith is not knowledge, but a spiritual practice. It is not dissected like a corpse, but experienced from within. And you are trying to explain things from the height of your intellect, things that are fundamentally inaccessible to the intellect. It seems to me that you are simply denying true faith for some reason, confusing the concepts of "Faith" and "faith." And what is your argument? Only that "I have seen those and others and thirds," and that proves something to you! As if many others haven't seen them, including devout scientists who, I think, knew no less than you.