I haven't been paying close attention to the discussion in this thread for the last five pages, and if someone posted this conversation before me, I apologize.
To avoid cluttering the forum with too much text, I'm posting a link: http://www.bayan.com.ua/modules.php?name=Articles&pa=showarticle&articles_id=2531
This debate will be interesting to both religiously inclined people and atheists. I'll warn you in advance that my personal opinion on this issue differs from the opinions of both participants in this debate.
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