Which came first: matter or spirit?

Yes, cut off a finger, and you'll reduce your soul (the number of cells will be smaller). Well, I'll answer Agilist too. Quote: "Mistake! A sheet of paper is a three-dimensional object. This is easy to verify by folding several dozen of these sheets. If they were two-dimensional, the stack of sheets would be as flat as one." I thought you would understand. :) I'm taking a two-dimensional plane in the ideal case, where the thickness tends to 0. Is that okay? Quote: "Isn't it science that says: 'Prove it, and I'll believe'?" If they prove to me that humans have a soul, that there is hell and heaven, I will believe it." Science says that, and yet it uses unverified data? Science says? You surprise me. It turns out that we, the poor, backward fanatics, have to prove it to scientific minds, just because they can't prove the opposite!!! :) Here's what you're doing: you contemptuously say, "religion is prejudice," but you don't have any scientific facts or evidence to support such a statement! You violate your own principle, which means you become just as bad as we are. You BELIEVE, and we BELIEVE. You have no proof, and neither do we. Or rather, we do (both of us), but this is an area of debate. "I meant living matter." In your understanding, the spirit is just the biochemical processes of the brain, and you casually throw around phrases like "to possess." In the end, I understood your idea. 1) The universe has always existed. 2) In some way, non-living matter can develop, turn into living matter, and evolve. 3) The thought processes of living matter are the spirit. In general, it's the classic theory of evolution, for which I have countless scientific counter-arguments. Quote: "And what are these atheistic systems?" This is Ganymede's theory, which even scientists don't practice. That's why I said other systems.