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I was too lazy to read all the posts. It's interesting that many people refer to someone else in their attempt to answer the question. You talk about "your theories," but they are based on what you heard or read somewhere, while someone else pretends to be a new intellectual of the era and tries to come up with something original, telling themselves that they are clever for figuring it out first. I'm not a very scientifically minded person. As a person, I can feel and live according to my feelings. Here are some theses: 1. Everything is infinite. 2. Infinity consists of identical periods. 3. Everything acts according to laws. 4. Whoever understands all the laws places himself next to them (executive power). 5. ... I could continue for a long time, but I don't see much point in it. To answer the topic's question: in our period of infinity, matter is primary, but the SPIRIT fills it. The Spirit is probably the law. I can't prove it, I just feel it. I don't want to think that after my death, my personality will cease to exist. I would even agree to helpless contemplation, being in a lifeless stone.
I agree with Silvanis that the question is incorrect.
Added 9 minutes ago Ganymed;81380
Yes, it's turning into a bit of a storm in a teacup, I apologize...
So, since I was asked to give a definition of matter and spirit, I dared (to my own detriment) to outline my theory on this. If you disagree, by all means, present your own or don't present anything at all. But it's not necessary to build non-existent complexities on my scheme because of an unwillingness to understand the essence, dear Berserk.
Matter is things that are tangible to the senses of a person, animal, plant, that is, everything that I have defined as a subject of consciousness. I hope I don't need to explain that animals and plants have their own "sense organs" or reflexes and desire what humans do - to live. Further, I wrote something that Silvanis did not pay attention to: things are not just tangible, but also identified (that is, recognized) by consciousness as REALLY EXISTING. This also applies to the laws of physics. I hope you don't argue that they really exist, and therefore - matter, according to my (strictly!!!!!) definition.
As for the spirit, I will give a very characteristic example to illustrate what I wrote about it. A community of carriers of an astral code (i.e., a society) creates a subject entity - a social group, which is the sum of both positive and negative codes of the community of carriers of the astral code. This sum of codes creates its own code (public opinion), which in itself is a "subject code." By generating this code, the community moves from "transmitting" the code to "receiving" it, that is, public opinion begins to encode each subject of consciousness and act on its personal code. For one subject of consciousness, it adds up in a positive way, for another - in a negative way. Here is a rather simple scheme, if you think about it. And it is common to any example, for example, religion. It's all the same.
THIS IS NOT A SCIENTIFIC FORUM!!!! HOW WERE YOU TAUGHT TO SPEAK LIKE THAT????? THIS IS A RUSSIAN-SPEAKING FORUM! THE QUESTION IS IN RUSSIAN! SO WHY ARE YOU, A BEARER OF THE GREAT AND MIGHTY LANGUAGE, USING ONLY PREPOSITIONS? WHAT IS THIS ABSTRACTION! I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT IS PRIMARY FOR YOU! APPARENTLY LATIN AND ANCIENT GREEK!! BUT UNDERSTAND: USING THE LANGUAGE OF LEARNED MEN DOES NOT MAKE YOU SMARTER!!!!!!
REgulus
