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Let matter appear first. Billions of years pass. Matter remains as it was... dead, bleak, chaotic...
(.....here is the atheist's tale about the possibility of life appearing from dead matter) - Gentlemen! You believe that life can emerge from the dead, and yet you say that the Spirit cannot exist before matter??? Your religion is even less plausible than ours!!!
I will give my old example. Let matter be a two-dimensional space. We live here and cannot (in any way) imagine anything outside of it. Suppose the Spirit lives in a three-dimensional space; do you think it can be outside our plane? Of course, it can! And yet, with no experience living in a two-dimensional space, it is impossible to prove that a three-dimensional space exists! Remove your two-dimensional plane; the one who lives in the three-dimensional space will still remain! This is the most illustrative example I can give.
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So, something or someone can easily exist outside of something, and that's it! Quote: "Everything we see is what we know. The rest are various manifestations of private experience, multiplied, interpreted, and accepted on faith by some part of humanity." Again, Mr. Ganymede is wrong, and terribly wrong!!! 1) Do you know that vision is 90% a purely psychological process? 2) Do you know that what our eye receives is not the whole image; there is a blind spot that we do not perceive, but the brain constructs the image based on experience and its algorithms? 3) Do you know about millions of visual illusions, tests, which line is longer, what is further away, where vision deceives us? And now, answer: how can you make such a critical statement, relying on such a terribly imperfect device for obtaining information, let alone Truth??? I prefer to use logic rather than believe my eyes.
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So, something or someone can easily exist outside of something, and that's it! Quote: "Everything we see is what we know. The rest are various manifestations of private experience, multiplied, interpreted, and accepted on faith by some part of humanity." Again, Mr. Ganymede is wrong, and terribly wrong!!! 1) Do you know that vision is 90% a purely psychological process? 2) Do you know that what our eye receives is not the whole image; there is a blind spot that we do not perceive, but the brain constructs the image based on experience and its algorithms? 3) Do you know about millions of visual illusions, tests, which line is longer, what is further away, where vision deceives us? And now, answer: how can you make such a critical statement, relying on such a terribly imperfect device for obtaining information, let alone Truth??? I prefer to use logic rather than believe my eyes.