Strange love.

if this is a pervert (was normal then became a faggot) then crush those freaks so they don't corrupt others,

Something is unclear. What does "was normal...." mean? There are cases where a person is homosexual but doesn't want to admit it to themselves. They stubbornly try to "be normal," might even get married... but sooner or later they get fed up with it. One can sleep with a wife and even have children (like Oscar Wilde, for example — he had two sons), but a person of "alternative orientation" will not be truly happy with her. And if they realize what they are actually drawn to and "go gay," from the outside it will look like a change of orientation, a leap of an idiot's imagination. In reality, it is simply the definition of one's orientation, not a change.
Another matter is if a person, figuratively speaking, watched too much Borya Moiseyev and decided: "Oh, how cool it is to be gay! That's it, I'm entering the monastery... a men's one!" :D That's just idiocy, an immature psyche; such people will follow someone in a herd anyway — if not into homosexuality, then into drugs, if not drugs, then into skinheads...
These aren't "real" homosexuals at all. And the fight shouldn't be against them, but against those who propagate same-sex love as a sign of special refinement... nonsense; among great scientists, writers, artists, and composers, there were both homosexuals and heterosexuals.

secondly there are people born gay, there are actually very few of them, I treat them as sick people, they need help, because it is very difficult for them, unlike "perverts" they cannot disguise themselves "as normal", and usually they are the worst off...

I would say they don't need help, but rather not to be hindered... Treat them the same as, say, redheads: hair color says NOTHING about what a person is as a personality, and orientation is the same.

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I view it strictly negatively — what ridiculous and disgusting ideas have crept into our country from the West!

I wonder, was Tchaikovsky also a homosexual under the influence of the West? And Bush, just a beast...:smile30:

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Laura! You didn't understand the topic))))

I think she understood perfectly. Her example was a response to Nowizard's example. Indeed, a normal (in terms of brains, not sexual orientation) person understands a refusal the first time. Otherwise, it's just rudeness.

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...... damn but I have a different attitude towards lesb...ians ...it's cool to party with them like that at a party and after...:)

Yeah, only lesbians won't "party" with a guy. :D Because by definition they are lesbians. Just as gays won't "party" with a woman.
And all sorts of experiments with a bisexual slant are not an orientation, they are entertainment... Mostly successfully promoted in porn.:smile14:

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Lesbians have one bad quality — for some reason they mess with guys' heads, date them and even have sex. And then they suddenly dump them, honestly admitting that they "prefer girls more and I found my only one". And then they have the nerve to insult men! Saying we are coarse, unpolished stumps, overgrown with stubble, smelling of booze and incapable of true tenderness :(

Why am I getting so worked up? Well, my friend had a girl like that! Since then, the guy has become a devoted misogynist

Mugais, why are you generalizing based on one case? That was some kind of psychopath... Or maybe your friend just exaggerated; he's hurt in such a situation. Maybe she really didn't know that men weren't for her... Love arrives unexpectedly... (c):cool:

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Yes, but there can be ardent feminists, then the matter might end differently

Uhh, guys, you're confusing something. Feminists are supporters of equal rights for men and women, not man-haters. Man-haters are just women with psychological trauma...

Well, I've written enough, that'll be plenty of extracurricular reading for you for a month...:D