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Dark30
As you rightly pointed out, everyone understands everything, both ours and theirs, the difference between us and the argument lies in the fact that "talking is not the same as doing, we're happy to just chat, but action is another matter. And when it comes to action, we disappear into the bushes, my house is on the edge." A balanced decision involves thinking about what to do next first, and then acting. Your position is to act first, then think about what to do next. This topic has been discussed ad nauseam, and I completely agree with you that playing Heroes is much better than these forum squabbles.

My friend, today is the 90th day of the Maidan!!! How stupid do you have to be not to understand after three months that you need to leave??? Dad still believes that this is just a group of extremists and that the only option is for everyone to go home! Kyiv is paralyzed today, all the roads to the capital have been blocked with sand and concrete to prevent protesters from entering, and every other car is being searched. Is this how they fight extremism?
What are you trying to tell me? I don't understand...

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Wicc
How can you not set it up... but who will then spread propaganda, form a bandit underground, sabotage the actions of the authorities, and put obstacles in their way? It is difficult to do this from across the ocean; a presence on the ground is needed.

The technology of the Orange Revolution is based on this:
- The media forms the desired point of view within the country and abroad
- the underground recruits and trains fighters and extras, mainly from people with the same mindset as Juristis
- the actions of the authorities to counter this process are sabotaged, both during preparation and in the hot phase

This scenario has been tested many times, including in 2004 in Ukraine. For this, yes, you need many agents of influence - at least in the media, in youth organizations, and in law enforcement.

But recently, they have learned how to fight it. It turns out that it is enough not to let the fleas crawl under your shirt, and the scenario begins to falter. And the key is the position of law enforcement agencies - if they are capable and loyal to the government, then the Maidans fail. This is how the Americans have failed in Kazakhstan, Belarus, and Russia in recent years.

And if you also put pressure on the media and various NGOs (which Putin is currently doing), then it becomes difficult even to prepare for a Maidan, and even more difficult to bring it to the hot phase.

Nothing new, it's all the same - "but I know how it's done..." Boring.
By the way, the Maidan in 2004 was a peaceful demonstration, a kind of democratic manifesto, nothing more. Ten years have passed, and now there are almost none of those who were there at that time. It's a different generation, but the same mentality in more complex circumstances. Please, no more about grand, well-thought-out scenarios, about roles, and so on. I'm really tired of the prophets.
Хаос - это порядок, которым сложнее управлять.

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