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I’ll have to lay out my perspective on the problem.

So we’re playing mininostu. We save on day 121. The next day we load, and the opp immediately passes the turn :eek: Well, I think, damn… but nothing to be done, gotta play. Because of this, a bunch of minor mistakes, chains don’t connect, a couple of heroes just stood around.

We save on day 127. We load the next day, and again the opp immediately passes the turn. That’s just complete chaos. The chains are, of course, cut tight—any wrong move and all plans go to hell. In the last seconds, a necro with boots, cape, and oil, 600+ skeletons, 2 greens, and an angel charges into the cyclops pen. Well, I think I’ll handle it quickly, but… no mana even for Haste :eek: Naturally, while the skeletons crawled across the field, they were just shot down. Mood at zero—good thing it wasn’t the main army; Crag with 20+ birds is fighting on another front. I ask for auto, hoping for understanding of the situation and the opp’s partial fault, and I’m refused. Well, I think, that’s it, but I can’t do anything—by the rules, he didn’t break anything, even though he acted dirty. So a thought comes: return the dirty trick, formally without breaking the rules. I popped into the opp’s stream for 10 seconds to gauge the overall development. And I logged in under my own profile, which already shows I wasn’t planning to watch constantly.

After that, the opp kept passing turns after saves, but I was already prepared for it. He always saved; I was ready to play to the bitter end.
The game ended on day 227, i.e., a month after the incident.

Now I’m being accused of grossly violating the game rules, threatened with punishment up to and including a World Championship ban, but excuse me—for what? For falling for the opp’s provocations and responding in an ungentlemanly way? Did I cheat, maphack, or open saves? But the opponent is all white and fluffy, poor thing suffered from a recidivist, so let him get a free pass forward.

After carefully rereading the rules, I only found
Fair Play
The most important point: players must play fairly and respect each other.
- It is forbidden to use cheat codes, unauthorized programs, or bugs resulting from the use of additional programs and files during a game.
- No one except the tournament judge/host or a member of the Arbitration Committee may open saves of an unfinished game, and only if a disputable situation arises in the game. If at the moment of a disputable situation requiring save inspection there is no contact with the judge/host/Arbitration Committee, the game must be interrupted and saved by both participants until contact with the judges is established.
- It is forbidden to open the map being played in the editor before the game ends.
A game is considered finished when one player has completely destroyed the other, or one of them has surrendered, which must be confirmed via ICQ. Only after this is it allowed to open saves and view the map in the editor.
Players who agreed to play are responsible for all actions that occur on their computers during the game and/or related to the unfinished game.

When playing with password-protected saves, players are required to:
- provide their password to the opponent(s) immediately after the game;
- provide the password of an unfinished game upon request of the tournament host/judge/Arbitration Committee if a disputable situation arises.
Where is anything about streams? By that logic, you could add anything here. The same turn-passing without giving time to remember is often more critical, especially on large templates. Let’s also add stalling the game when the opp is busy with his own stuff during a battle. Or delaying the start of the game when it’s advantageous. A lot of things could be added based on subjective opinion—should I have been the first to appeal to the Arbitration Committee? But! Since the rules have been written and spelled out point by point, let’s follow the letter of the law, not subjective opinions. And the law states
2.14. Actions not prohibited/restricted by these rules are permitted.

So, by the letter of the law, what did I violate? Morally wrong, yes, but I don’t consider myself guilty, because I didn’t start it; I only responded to dirty play with dirty play. Yes, Pete was right—this isn’t funka; here you have to play with whoever you’re given. It’s the first time I’ve encountered this kind of attitude. Anyway, I think that’s it—decide for yourselves. And finally, my IMHO
Vatya (16:00:34 27/12/2013)
and the funniest thing is that he finished the game, but ran to complain when he saw he couldn’t win fairly. shame to be like that

Vatya (16:02:23 27/12/2013)
and after that, what honor can we talk about