DISCUSSIONS on “Rules for online games in HoMM3 and formulas for calculating player rating.”

I'll repeat it again – I don’t see any way to set dates for completing seasonal games. I can’t think of a single clear and logical wording that could be “taken and applied.” And I’m not suggesting limiting the completion time for seasonal games or forcing them into some kind of framework.

What do you find wrong with what was suggested? I’m just curious about what you considered and evaluated, like there’s something wrong here.

It’s funny, but this is exactly the sticking point. Exactly what I mean!
Let’s imagine that you are one of these two players.
Obviously, you have lost interest in the postponed game since you want to play with a new opponent.

Not necessarily. This cannot be an ASSERTION that I have lost interest in the postponed game! I might want to play with a new opponent because of my own human weaknesses; for example, a real Новичок contacted me by chance, I gave him some advice, provided links to information, he was very grateful and asked me to teach him online basics, we had a pleasant conversation, and while feeling positive, I started playing. Why should this be interpreted as me ignoring you (if you're the player whose game is pending)? You see, people have souls that can experience various feelings (joy, anger, gratitude, etc.). These are subtle matters, and I hope we won’t discuss them here.

Many people here have friends, and others are just acquaintances. For example, I wanted to play with a friend, and suddenly they found time to play. But there’s also a game with a simple acquaintance, maybe even a Новичок, where only a superficial connection exists. Of course, everyone treats their friend better and wants to play with them during this free time. Does this mean that I don’t care about my opponent (the Новичок)? No, it doesn’t. So why prohibit playing ranked games with friends until they finish their current saves?

In short, the fact that someone has started playing with another person CANNOT BE PROOF of disregard for the person whose save is pending. We don’t need to prove this; we need to complete the game within the deadline, not limit the number of games on ХВ because if we ban playing with others before finishing, there will be fewer games anyway, and seasonal games will become boring.

I’ll say again that limiting by deadlines might be the solution, but definitely not forcing completion and then starting with someone else! This practice is easily seen in tournaments. The deadline expires – result. Everything is clear and understandable, so there’s no need to delve into details.

There's another interesting nuance. You say: "finish one game or get a loss if you start with another and seemingly ignore the first player." The same probably applies to tournaments. You started playing a tournament, began a game against an opponent, didn’t finish, started a game in another tournament, didn’t finish, started in a third tournament, another save. It turns out the player doesn’t respect some tournament and ignores it because he started playing another tournament. I know you treat tournaments separately, but even in this example, it can be seen that playing with another opponent, as well as playing in another tournament, does not indicate disrespect for the first.


1. All started ranked games in a seasonal tournament must be completed (have a final result: win, loss, or draw) within two months, starting from the date of the first game save (111) and ending on the last day of the game (save of the last day).

In case the opponent (Respondent) either doesn’t respond at all or refuses to set an exact time:

2. The player who wants to finish the game (Plaintiff), within one month after the interruption/postponement, makes attempts to agree on a time to complete the game via ICQ and PMs on the forum, but no less than three times (no less than once every 7 days). All proposals in the first 7 days are considered as one attempt to agree; proposals in the second 7 days – as the second attempt; proposals in the third 7 days – as the third attempt.

(such a long period is given because the plaintiff may turn out to be a party with very little playing time, like free weekends, if they exist, and everyone should be taken into account, and it's not always possible to find time to start playing according to the proposed schedule)

- In the third attempt to arrange a game, the plaintiff must obligatorily notify the opponent simultaneously via ICQ and PM that failing to complete the game within the deadline will result in punishment (link to the established rules). Consider the opponent’s entry into the forum as reading the message in PMs if he doesn’t respond in ICQ.

After receiving the message and responding to it, the Respondent must discuss possible dates for completing the game with the Plaintiff, and they must find a common date within the next 10 days! If an agreement is reached, then in case of any impossibility to play at the agreed time, either party within the following three days must explain the reasons and has the right to re-arrange, and the date must be set on one of the following 10 days.

- If the player who was absent on the previous date does not appear again, he receives a technical loss.

- If another player does not appear, he also must describe the reasons within the next three days and has the right to a third arrangement, and the date must be set on one of the following 10 days.

3. If players cannot find a common date for completing the game during any of the decades, the administrator appoints one specific date (regardless of deadlines) when both players are available. No show – loss.


P.S. We should already decide on the rules for the season since we have returned to this issue.

In total, we have a minimum opportunity of 3 weeks for postponement (when the opponent contacts you) + 10 days to set a date for completion + 10 days for a repeat date. These aren’t very long periods, but ultimately there will be a result, which is what is required.