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It was also perfectly clear that there was no point in continuing the discussion. Because, when one false argument is refuted, another one immediately follows. But, as a (c) Oelm implies, a proper discussion on the internet requires a timely response to the thread...
Lying has never been my weakness (well, maybe it's your strength, you know better :D). One could say that I was slow, a dullard, that I spoke about things I could have kept silent about, but I always stood by my words...
Your "accountability for words" in 90% of cases boils down to something like this: "I just have a certain kind of information, based on which I formed my opinion, and of course, it won't be shared here" (c) Oelm
Apparently, pus-like jelly flowed from the mollusks. Which is also my achievement.
I always looked at single-player saves in 90% of games. At least because, formally, the rules didn't prohibit it.
:smile52:
"numOne:
and, as you know, our rules prohibit opening saves before the end of the game
Oelm:
yes, I know that" (c)
Again, a distortion of facts. According to the dates in ICQ, it is clear that the conversation with Twaryna took place the very next evening (or rather, night).
The game was on the 29th, if I'm not mistaken, and the logs of your replies to Twaryna are from the 31st, so I wrote "a couple of days," although it's possible that less time passed, I don't argue.
Incoherence is more of a characteristic of spoken language. You can mumble incoherently after a bottle of rum, for example. What is the confusion? I described the situation as I saw it. What exactly was confused?
I could post the entire log of your replies, but I think a couple of quotes from it will be enough:
Oelm:
Well, it's quite obvious that the heroes were left running
Oelm:
and they created autosaves
Twaryna:
it's clear that this is our map
Twaryna:
and that it was loaded after our save, an hour and a half later
Twaryna:
no offense, but that's more than suspicious
Oelm:
well, maybe
Oelm:
such a difference
Oelm:
okay
Oelm:
alright
Oelm:
I'll try to provide arguments
Oelm:
for a smart person
Oelm:
well, I think that's what needs to be done
Twaryna:
I'm listening
Oelm:
well, first of all, the streamer just puts his trust in you right away
Oelm:
especially in SC2
Oelm:
or wherever else
Oelm:
if you want
Oelm:
to see the wins, it's logical
Oelm:
there probably was
Oelm:
I mean, there was definitely a win
Oelm:
and there, he could have entered some cheat
Oelm:
and
Oelm:
or whoever entered the infinite turn
Oelm:
for the hero
Oelm:
anyway, there's no point
Oelm:
in going through some saves
Oelm:
I think the saves don't matter
...
Twaryna:
you should understand, the shadow has already been cast
Twaryna:
the stream has done its job
Oelm:
damn
Oelm:
I don't believe
Oelm:
that no one saved the game
Oelm:
on their computer
Oelm:
well, first of all
Oelm:
in the report, I still need to return to the topic
Oelm:
I think that's what needs to be done
Twaryna:
if there is a report, and not just technobabble, then yes
Oelm:
so I don't want to hide anything
Oelm:
damn
Oelm:
I probably have
Oelm:
the right in any case
Oelm:
to comment
Twaryna:
of course
Oelm:
well, it will be
Oelm:
and about the game
Oelm:
and about the situation
Twaryna:
damn, well, that's just empty words :)
Oelm:
in general, if you have any suggestions
Oelm:
then I'm ready to listen
Twaryna:
my suggestion is simple - send these saves
Oelm:
besides these saves
...
I honestly even shed a tear when I reread the logs of your replies. :)
Apparently, the AK was so intoxicated with their own importance that they didn't even think to test whether the date difference would appear in the games. Well, why bother, when you can use special means of lying and distortion.
We checked, and no such date shift occurred. And I actually wrote that we assume that the saves were faked, we don't have and can't have ironclad proof. What lies and distortions did you see here?
In general, it follows from the context that there are no facts at all, and the question of GUILT has turned into a question of TRUST.
There is a fact of a rule violation, which you yourself admitted. And, yes, you are right, it was largely a question of trust in you. This trust is gone, strangely enough, for none of us.
...There will be a final post - a summary with attachments - screenshots about the "hour difference in dates," and with pictures of what the AK should be doing, as I imagine it, etc., due to the message size limit.
We look forward to it! :)
And in general, the emotional message gets a five out of five, I praise you!
Mollusks, jelly, impotent spirits, autistic comedians - this is just:
Пусть мой враг будет силен и страшен. Если я поборю его, то не буду чувствовать стыда.
