Time is money, or are you going to waste it?

where in the thread was it written that we are talking about a chess timer with pause in battles???

2R55Max. OK. Let me also be brief and try to explain everything point by point. I only suggest splitting our discussion into two independent components: 1. chess timer 2. time in battle. The chess timer can indeed pause during battle. And time in battle can run with the SoD timer (well, at least it can be made to). If you agree, then let's go.

1. Chess timer.

What are chess and a chess timer? - it's a tribute to an equal amount of time in absolutely identical conditions without external factors, except for the starting color, and all tactics stem from there. White moves, Black tries to figure him out and defend, at best counterattack. All actions of both players are confined solely to a battle of wits. Each sees the opponent's move and sees what they can do, but the one who sees further or the one who doesn't make a mistake wins. In Heroes, there's nothing close to this.

In your posts, for some reason you treat the chess timer and chess as one and the same. But in essence, a chess timer is just a type of time control that started being used in chess. Some people play chess with a Heroes timer. For example, 1 minute per move. So the timer is separate, the game is separate.

We play with different towns, heroes, armies, different opponents, we have a ton of various external factors, and besides, we don't see the board at all! Imagine a large board covered by a veil of darkness, a different number of pieces (heroes), and they even move any old how! What does a chess timer have to do with this???:confused: :confused:

Perhaps without realizing it yourself, you are now giving the biggest advantage of the chess timer for Heroes. Precisely the uncertainty and constantly unfolding prospects are the main argument in favor of the chess timer. Imagine a situation where you make a move that you planned during the opponent's turn, enter an unexplored zone, and there are 2 Griffin Conservatories! You need to urgently change the plan and grab them as quickly as possible... That's exactly where time accumulated earlier comes in handy for making a thoughtful and balanced decision.

Furthermore,

You write to me that e2-e4 takes a second, but where do you see e2-e4? In Heroes, moves are not the same, decisions are made based on constantly changing events depending on the map's explored state.

Again, spot on! But again, an argument in favor of the chess timer. By e2-e4, I meant a simple move. For example: scout heroes quickly gathered resources, the main hero walked along the road, nothing explored, a building was made in the castle. The move took 1 minute. Such moves happen.
In the case of using a chess timer, the player will have incentive to finish the move faster and save time in the bank, which will be needed during

constantly changing events depending on the map's explored state.

The chess timer (especially without pausing in battles) gives absolutely equal time to both players who are in completely different situations, playing with different towns. The inequality of the situation follows from this automatically.

Players are initially in different situations. Not only because of different towns, but also because of different layouts, etc. And the time given by the rules is the same. Therefore, it's entirely fair that the chess timer will monitor this even more strictly!

Now the conclusion. Advantages of the chess timer:
1. Using accumulated time to make complex decisions
2. Stimulates the player to finish the move faster to accumulate time, rather than just staring at the monitor waiting for time to run out
3. In case of complete depletion of the timer reserve, the player returns to the usual SoD timer or starts accumulating a reserve again.

I don't see a single disadvantage. Therefore, I position the chess timer as a mandatory innovation.

2. Time in battle runs
Time in battle is a controversial issue, and everyone has the right to stick to their usual position. Personally, I think this: For every action taken in the game, you must pay with time. An example with demonology was given here. I believe it's fair that the player who gets troops out of thin air pays for it with HIS OWN time, not with our shared time (his move + my waiting).

When one player has 2000 left and the other has 0 at the end, there is no difference if all moves are successfully completed. If the game turned out such that one player needed, for example, 4000 fewer clicks, then at the end of the game there will be a difference in remaining time of 2000 seconds.

Here, the player himself must decide what is better: 2000 seconds or 200 demons, which those seconds were spent on.

Then it was:

With a chess timer, someone really needs to kill zombies with harpies, while the opponent will swat twice as many golems with Grand Elves and spend less time, and if there are many such long guards (for harpies), then why should one spend more time on simple but longer battles?

And you take this fact into account when you choose your town, and that's it.
Don't reference specific cases of guards. Guards are completely random. One might get zombies, losing only time killing them with harpies, while the opponent might get not golems, but Evil Eyes, losing those same Grand Elves. What do you think is better?
Someone might even get several Griffin Conservatories near their castle, while the other gets only blocks. No timer will save you there. So don't reason about guards.

Overall, time in battle is a separate case. Everyone has their own opinion. I've just written my IMHO.