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And wisdom is not actually needed for using scrolls, FYI. For adventure map scrolls you don't even need a spell book. Might as well just ban scrolls then, like on WCL.

That's not what was meant.

Ariputra, level 4-5 scrolls have very low value, and their guards are absolutely insignificant, so allowing scrolls without a Mage Guild is out of the question. Or do you think 100 pokemon are equal to a Dragon Utopia?!

Why is this condition even needed — building the corresponding level of the Mage Guild? To eliminate imbalance, to balance the game? So that one player doesn't get a valuable object at an incomparably low cost? That's why an additional condition of use is introduced,

Naturally, the guard of a level 4-5 scroll and the guard of a utopia, not to mention what's inside, are incomparable — there is no contradiction in that, in my opinion. It's about something else:

The value of, for example, a level 1 Griffin Conservatory can later be no less than a Town Portal scroll (not talking about the object's value), meaning it can later have just as strong an impact on the game result as a level 4-5 scroll, while the guard of the Griffin Conservatory can be just as weak as that of a scroll. That is, in both cases, the guard (cost) does not correspond to what you get in return, but in one case the mismatch of cost (guard) and reward (contents) is balanced by additional artificial conditions of use, and in the other it is not.

To balance the cost (guard) and reward (contents) in one case, an additional condition is introduced, but in the other case it isn't — that's the problem, in my view.

After all, this is just my own personal subjective opinion

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ariputra, and how do we know you're not just playing the innocent little flower? It's to avoid that dreary rehashing of dried-up arguments that certain judging standards were invented, and in this case, I completely agree with Mizrael.

You're right, there's no way to know. There's no guarantee.
You talk about judging standards in the "game," but in real life, are you also that strict? With yourself?

And generally, how should it be? Distrust in advance? Presumption of guilt?

As for the auto situation — I laid out general thoughts. SoD is by definition quite imbalanced, but that has its own charm: some like chess, some like backgammon. Personally, in this case, I prefer SoD precisely because it's the game of my childhood, not WT, for instance. It's clear that a number of quality improvements wouldn't hurt, but they would only be beneficial if those changes don't alter the core gameplay principle, strategy, and so on. There's no point in making chess a 20x20 board — nobody would play it.)

That's right, SoD itself is very imbalanced, and that has its own charm, but the question is something else: some elements that introduce imbalance are reflected in the rules, while others that also introduce imbalance — some to a lesser extent, some to a greater one — are not. That doesn't mean the rules are bad. It only means that in some ways they don't align with my views.

You're wrong; moreover, I think the debate isn't worth it,

Then why did you join it? Lol

so you can, of course, make excuses all you want, but personally, I wouldn't change my judging principles.
Tvardovsky, you should drop the "not" phrasing. ;-)

That's right, decisions must be made in accordance with standards and rules.
But you still don't understand anything if you're drawing such conclusions. It's about something else — I'm not asking anything from anyone, just like you, I'm laying out general thoughts. I don't need this draw at all, frankly.

I'll repeat: I proposed a draw to see the person's reaction, to see if they would apply the standards they had previously "tried on" me to themselves, but for some reason didn't want to wear them. And that's their right, and I don't judge them. I'm only theoretically discussing the possible motives for alternative decisions in such a situation.

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