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Турниры HeroesWorld Cup & World Cup - 2012

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I moved the discussion from the Round Table here.

A bit of technical info.
How is judging done at the World Championship? Simple controversial situations are resolved by the host - StickyFingaz. If one of the disputing parties is not satisfied with the decision, they ask to involve the judges. And the issue is settled by a majority vote.
The info on judges is on the World Championship website:
Judges: StickyFingaz, black_knight, Pit for LM, Tiamath, Spell5632.

How did the situation with rebellious develop?
Save files came from black_knight. Sticky asked the judges to review them. I am not aware of what negotiations took place with other judges.
As for me, I could not understand the player's logic and asked Sticky to find out what rebellious was guided by.
I have an AC archive where I put save files that were reported. Sticky asked if I had anything on Rebellius. No, no one had ever contacted me about him.
After my games with Rebellius, Sticky asked me to look at my saves.

Here I should say that after the well-known events three and two years ago, I absolutely stopped caring how my opponent plays. If he plays unfairly, well, that will be on his conscience... Why should I worry? I will somehow notice blatant cheating with 2K skeletons, but fishing for maphack, I have enough games from others to deal with.

I quickly looked it over, said that I accept the defeat and have no complaints. Besides, there wasn't much to cheat with there anyway. Jebus Cross is too transparent a template to catch maphack on. And the other two games were too short. There was a question about Pandora's boxes. I said that I don't know how to determine the contents of guarded Pandora's boxes, but maybe some method exists. We had Sem as a specialist.

After this, Sticky said the matter would be discussed with the judges. Both I and BK were removed from further participation as participants and interested parties, for which I am very grateful to Sticky.
Since there were too few judges left (only a Pole and a Chinese remained), apparently Sticky brought in more guys from HP. But I can't say anything more about that.
I did not communicate with any of the judges about this, except Neo, I did not bribe anyone, and I did not use my authority to pressure anyone.
Garret
2. Why is the issue of rematches for players black_knight and yarzapp not being raised? After all, both of them, based on the judges' conclusions about maphack, are the injured parties. And one of them must play against Pit for LM for the right to compete in the next round.
In a similar situation in a Jebus tournament, the judges made the same decision. Disqualification of the player and annulment of the latest result. A rematch of part of the tournament is not done in such cases.
Although Pit for LM wrote to both Sticky and Neo that it would be better to leave everything as is, send Neo directly to Maretti, and BK and I were already planning to play the day before yesterday. Sticky did not allow it.
Stizko
..... why don't YOU take all of Pit's games apart under a microscope .... :smile01:
The judges do not review all games in a row. Usually, the player themselves must check their game and, if questions or doubts arise, contact the judges. So go ahead and take the initiative.
Tens of this Pit's games are posted on HeroesWorld, and these games have hundreds of views. I have nothing to hide; I have NEVER played dishonestly. Get out your microscope and search, otherwise take back your words. I am ready to explain every move, every fight, every action.
I have played in roughly 15 inter-portal matches. Do you naively think that my opponents (far from noobs) and the judges did not check my games? I don't know which player was checked more than me... Once, confirmation of my game from one of the teams was delayed for a long time, and I asked the captain if they had any complaints about me. And I got an answer that just blew me away: "No, we checked you four times over, it's all clean..."
Yes, there have been a couple of times with veiled and unveiled questions about whether I cheated.
In the first case, my opponent didn't know that the game has view earth/air and was surprised that I didn't stand on the road when his hero was revealed by the view spell half a move away from me...
Another time, a Chinese judge spent 10 days thinking about how I broke through the elves with such small losses. I explained the battle setup, and the issue was resolved.
Javdet
If you look at a dozen games of any player, everyone will have a similar compilation.
Is this a theoretical postulate?
I have empirical data.
No, they won't.
For several years now, I have been judging tournaments and working in the AC. During this time, over a hundred saves have passed through my brain.
I look at a save; if there is even a slightly suspicious moment, I put it in the archive and wait for the next report or ask for saves from recent games of the same player.
A "similar compilation" was only possible once, and the case was discussed on HP.
But let's recall the situation with Britvochka (Andrei, sorry). Back then, a very strange move was noticed in one of his games. However, quite a few more saves were reviewed and nothing similar was found. Some players at the time confidently claimed that Britvochka cheated in games against them, but for some reason no saves were found.
Incidentally, it was precisely from such situations that my requirement in the seasonal league to make and store saves came from. You, gentlemen, can't be begged for them...