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1. I suggested conducting a poll. It failed. OK (Mr. (censored, equivalent of "don't care").

2. I am NO LONGER insisting on his ban. Why? Look at the poll.

3. At the moment, I am trying to convey to R55max and Co. that SoD is clearly not "in its original form" now, very far from it.
This is important to me.
R55Max
So what now? Yes, it's true, but WT isn't in its original form either.

WT is evolving! It can't be in its original form because it is constantly updated and improved. And thank goodness that's happening.
R55Max

You see, each change to the original (in the form it currently is) leads to a greater divergence.

Better tell me, why are such changes happening? Preferably in detail, the way you like it, in a wall of text.
R55Max

There is WT, there is its owner, and in any case everything depends only on what he listens to and what he changes, including things that someone dislikes, just as you or I dislike certain aspects there.

That's absolutely true. And that Asm can listen to the opinions of experienced players and also add only what he wants. For example, a long time ago there was talk that all class properties would be shifted to skills, since there are a number of top-tier classes that are used as Log and Earth in SoD, and there are those that are used like SoD's Mysticism. Vic wrote about this a long time ago too. But Asm never did this, feeding everyone empty promises and trinkets.

R55Max

So by changing SoD, we will start making changes that some like and others don't, and those in power will be whatever majority exists at that particular time. This majority will change periodically, and the gameplay will also change, in essence, this will all turn into a cheap knockoff of WT.

The majority has decided against it at the moment. OK. Let it be that way.

BUT
R55Max

You need to understand that the classic version of SoD (the current one) must always be kept in its original form
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I'm telling you again - the classic version is when you set the template Anarchy and start playing on it. What we have now is a tiny stump of the classic version. Wake up already, you zombies :D
R55Max

This majority will change periodically, and the gameplay will also change, in essence, this will all turn into a cheap knockoff of WT

THIS IS ALREADY A CHEAP KNOCKOFF OF WT. Just a pathetic one. But a knockoff!!!

R55Max

You can always create your own some other version.

Well, not always. And far from the one you want.
R55Max

It's impossible to achieve a perfect representation of the game among all players when there's the ability to change it.

So many people, so many opinions. But making a balanced version that suits everyone is quite realistic.
R55Max

WT will change forever, but let SoD remain itself.

+100500 Let SoD remain itself. Don't call what exists now "SoD." The classic version. The official one. Etc. This is a completely different game, differing from the original in very many ways.

Amen

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scorp
want to create an ideal SoD? ideal for whom? is that even possible?!

For everyone)
scorp

even had to check what I was playing :D F4 --> the SoD 3.2 and only, therefore it's still SoD, not a patch

Oh no, my dear friend :D It's a patch, after all a PATCH )). It is installed mentally by reading and following all the rules of the game. If we gathered all our rules into one and embedded them into the executable, it would quite well be a patch SoD 3.3 :D
scorp

playing knowing that I will 100% have any magic in the Mage Guild somehow feels unappealing

Well, you can't possibly have all magic in one Mage Guild in principle, like Armageddon in Conflux. But playing, for example, the same 8mm6 with absolutely no control and no Dragon Utopias, and no spells in scrolls, and nowhere to get them, that's... excuse me...
+ Consider that you lose resources and days for building, which are also not infinite.
scorp

not risk stumbling upon a greased stack of morale, where did that get me

Listen, I absolutely agree with you on this one.
scorp

balance ??? - delicious :D :D :D

Yeah, not particularly)

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scorp
with my previous post I wanted to lead to the question - what to change in the game without changing the physics itself to improve the game process (too many criteria, so just for improvement)?

- maybe reduce starting gold?

Starting gold at 160% can be reduced by playing with a handicap. A start of 7500. But then the income is also less) I wanted to suggest this in FFA games, giving the right to choose any town first)
scorp

- some kind of time improvement (timer from WT - this is very debatable for people dragging out battles)

The timer from WT and its implementation is just a matter of the time of the implementation itself. That hour has come. Because for some, even 10 minutes per turn is too little, you know.
scorp

- "random" templates - are they really that random with such a description

:D
Сейчас балуюсь этим https://vcmi.eu/download/
За то что нейтралы не бегают за единичкой, для меня это уже стоит того