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Silvanis;51721

Djinn are malicious desert spirits, not blue guys (and even less so blue women). The fact that they've lost their heads is bad, of course, but in their legend it's enough to just
Well, first of all, in Arabic tales they talk actively; there are mentions of how they maliciously roll their eyes and such... clearly if they've lost their heads, it's not yet in the literal sense.
And generally, if you look into the mythology, it's not even a fact that characters from Arabic tales can exist at the same time as characters from classical Celtic fantasy mythology. So there's no need to be so meticulous... And zombies, by the way, are not European characters at all. They are a "product" of African voodoo sorcerers, so let's make the Necromancer hero a black man then: "ears apart, ring in the nose...":confused:
These very djinn from Arabic mythology, by the way, could not obey anyone for a long time — chaotic-evil psychopaths ready to turn against their master at any moment. The Djinn from "Aladdin's Magic Lamp" is a huuuuge exception, and that's exactly why he's so popular: he's unnaturally fluffy. That's how most people imagine djinn. A hyped image. By the way, I really liked the composure of the djinn in the 3rd part. But these ones from the 5th always cause me vague doubts: what is he doing under that hat? And generally: WHY DOES A HEADLESS PERSON NEED A HAT???:confused:
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Titans are actually forces of chaos (hello to Heroes 4), they are immortal (hello to all heroes from 2), they have nothing to do with lightning (again, hello to all heroes from 2).
Yes, and then they should be removed as a unit altogether. They truly cannot obey anyone. They are more than gods. To hell with mythology, but in Heroes 3 they were beautiful, like Achilles or Hector, while here you either need to take them to a hairdresser or ground them for safety's sake.:eek:
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Gargoyles — this is even simpler — look at any gothic cathedral and be convinced that in neither 3 nor 5 is a gargoyle actually a gargoyle. And it's not even a mythical monster.
By the way, I was very unpleasanty surprised back then by the move of gargoyles from the Warlocks' castle (2nd) to the mages' castle. A gothic character with a malicious smirk — what kind of forces of good are these!:eek:
And yet in Heroes 2, gargoyles look like the gargoyles of Notre Dame. What is absolutely certain is that they aren't sitting hugging a slab anywhere. Especially not a slab inscribed with runes!!! Gothic, my foot!:mad:
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Vampire... folks, if not with a sword, how will he pierce the armor of, say, a knight? With teeth? Then he'll have to go to the dentist... if he even can after being beaten with a sword:D He should clearly be given some kind of magic strike then, like in 4.
Well yes... but vampires also cannot live in sunlight. For plausibility, it should be done this way: if a hero with vampires in the army comes out, say, from a dungeon, all the vampires in his army turn to dust! (like in BG2 with dark elf armor made of adamantine... everything by the letter of mythology!):D And since they sleep off the day in cozy coffins, they bite at night... when even paladins are lying in their nightgowns, resting after the daytime handicap. :p
Silvanis;51721

What is samurai about him:confused: I racked my brain over this for a long time, only found a black ponytail. There is NOTHING samurai about the vampire in 5. It seems, Magnus, you should also read some history books:)
No, really, he looks like an ancient Japanese illustration. That's there. The face is... narrow... and the eyes are drawn that way too. Look at old illustrations for Japanese tales.
Although in principle — I'm fine with such a vampire. He hisses colorfully.:p
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The vampires there are some kind of monstrosities. Some crazy mix of our Slavic upyr and a Western European literary character.
But in Heroes 2 they were somewhat funny. As if according to mythology, vampires were exclusively counts of the Dracula lineage... Here, however, they run around way too lively. And in 3 — at first they truly horrified, then I even liked them... such bloodless cripples, shaking with hatred for everything living... Besides, unupgraded vampires from 3 are a clear reference to the legendary "Nosferatu" with Max Schreck, the first classic vampire film.
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The angels there are just some kind of horror, not angels (damn, I'm tired of proving why — see my posts in the discussion of the lvl 7 unit in Heroes 5). And they die in a non-angelic way.
Well-well... actually the angels there are very classic! But the archangels are just a joke... Uncle Zeus without pants.
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Zombies there are also ugly. In 5 it's no better and no worse than in 3.
And I absolutely loved the butcher knife... it's even a shame that upgraded zombies traded it for some kind of hoe. :(
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Gremlins in 3 are unclear who they are, in 5 at least they look like characters from the movie:)
Now that's exactly it — associations with a movie are not good! Call this fantasy!
And generally, they look like Master Yoda here. Pfft.
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Archer elves in 3 are more attractive, but it's not fundamental.
But the ears in 5... the ears!!! That's just too much. A dialogue from "The Lord of the Rings" comes to mind:
"- These are not orcs, - said another, releasing the hilt of the sword he had grasped upon seeing Tern in Frodo's hand.
- Maybe elves? - tentatively uttered a third.
- No! These are not elves, - noted the fourth, the tallest and, judging by his posture, their leader. - Elves no longer enter Ithilien. Moreover, as is known, elves are a people of wondrous beauty.
- Seems we haven't surprised you with our beauty, - said Sam. - Thank you for the kind word
."
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Golems... hard to say. In 3 they were made by very stupid mages who were too lazy to put weapons in their hands, in 5 they were made by hacks, and apparently not without the help of glue (I mean glue for making a golem, not for stimulating the creative process; although mages in 5 might use it for that too;))
Golems in turbans — agree, that's brutal! I've seen many fantasy RPGs — by the way, golems were never given weapons anywhere. Why do they need weapons if they are made of iron/stone etc.? A blow from a granite fist will put even a paladin to rest.:rolleyes:
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Peasants are better; although they aren't beauties — far from beauties:) — but still not ragamuffins crying at every step (that's just too much).
Yes... the cry-babies left a feeling of deep bewilderment for a long time.
And generally — M&M 7, released back then, greatly contributed to the units from 3 becoming like family... When I remember the brawl with the djinn there — ugh, they aren't funny at all!
Anyway, arguing about tastes is an unproductive matter...:rolleyes:

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Xaker;51251

nwc only managed to make great heroes from the 3rd time (not counting a bunch of add-ons).... let's wait for at least two from Nival!!!!!!!
I apologize, but are you even aware that since around 1998 everyone played HoMM2 obsessively? It was a cult game. Do you think it's impossible to play such a thing — the pixels prick the eye? No matter, everything was drawn like that then. Back then, no matter whose house you visited — everyone sat and fought in the 2nd in hot-seat mode.
And this despite the fact that much required obvious refinement (especially the magic system).
But as for atmosphere... it was a fairy tale.:rolleyes: Those who started with HoMM2 will understand me 100%.