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Quote:Message from R55Max
Actually, the best players in the world live precisely in the post-Soviet space

Message from Lider1:
Making such a claim is the same as saying we are the only intelligent beings in the entire universe! Without having any technical means to verify it. Since this requires billions of light years.

Isn't that a bit too loud and self-confident, man???

I am saying these words based on the words of experienced and strong Heroes players I have spoken with. These words of mine are based on their experience, not on my own. You are very stupid if you think that all my statements are my own inventions and assumptions. It is precisely based on those tournaments that have taken place throughout the history of Heroes games (even if it's just one single tournament from StiKee) that the advantage of the Slavic people over others follows. So you create an international tournament, invite all the strongest, and if "ours" lose in the majority, then only then will you be right, but for now, stating the facts, ours are stronger, not the foreigners. Wtf, what is there to talk about if on Life Heroes I managed to win 2 games on Jebus Cross in the group and miraculously did not win the 3rd, even though playing on the same HeroesWorld, especially with those same skills (I only understood the word "template"), I wouldn't have a single chance against many newcomers of the past season.

Message from Lider1:
What is needed: a sports federation, official support, advertising -> competent marketing, money circulating in this matter - attracting players, sponsors. Well, and also that the ENTIRE WORLD is maximally involved, not just the CIS + Maretti. But this will never happen.

Here I agree up to the words - it will never happen. It will happen if people start working on it, so that's not an argument either. Have you yourself written at least one letter to the FCS Russia? Show me at least one person who contacted this organization? You try to fight for promotion, and after about 4 years (if nothing works out) you can say it's a waste of time. It all depends on activity.

Message from Lider1:
Or maybe those who played installed ICQ upon seeing that they would have to communicate through it?? Since we support the system of worship through it. And even if you don't want to, newcomers have to.

Maybe... Or maybe they still had it? Want me to read the coffee grounds? If you want, I can ask for your sake.

Message from Lider1:
OMG, ICQ is a protocol! And QIP is a client that supports the ICQ protocol, Jabber, and others! QIP itself is not ICQ!

I expressed myself incorrectly, I didn't think you would nitpick words. I meant that you create an ICQ account for yourself and use it through QIP.

Message from Lider1:
If you want to masturbate about your ICQ, then continue doing it. I have buried it. And its problems don't concern me. Not the protocol change, not the shut down servers, I communicate via Jabber and feel great.

If its problems don't concern you, then you better step aside yourself and masturbate the way you suggested to me. I'm glad you found a means of communication for yourself, but many people are satisfied with communicating via ICQ, and there's no need to foam at the mouth about its inadequacy (it looks like you're pissed off). Such people are dissatisfied with everything. All internet resources and applications have glitches and downtime.

Message from lider1:
And you (such a smart patriot), if you don't understand the difference between an open application and a closed one, then that's your problem. And what if tomorrow Mail.ru wants it, yeah all your QIPs and Mirandas will work over this protocol, you'll have to install the official ICQ client and stare at its fucking advertisement. For at least 10 years I've been watching this eternal hassle, and now this hassle doesn't bother me anymore. Eternal cries on the internet "ICQ is down again", "oh what are we going to do"!!!???

When that happens, then we'll ditch it! And don't exaggerate about the hassle, it's not as bad as you make it out to be. It works slowly and doesn't require anything to work. There is no protocol more unobtrusive to the system. I've been using it no less than you, so don't twist everything one way. In Kyiv, the Smartresponder.ru server, which every 4th person used, completely burned down, everything also froze, newsletters and storage were affected, so what now? All servers have glitches for various reasons.

Message from Lider1:
And if you, a nerd, need it only for games, then it's understandable that it suits you.

What are you even talking about? I've had ICQ for about 7 years, and why should I switch to Skype when I have almost 300 UINs in it? Why the hell should I switch to Skype and kill ICQ? It's an addition for now; when everyone has Skype and excellent internet, then it's a different matter!

Regarding "only games"... I'll tell you, absolutely every single website builder before 2005, who released educational discs with an ICQ number, had their own sites, etc. - they mandatory had ICQ and email, and sometimes it was the only means of communication with business people! Now these people make video conferences on Skype, but ICQ still remains an integral part of their communication (for many, especially since they don't want to lose acquaintances). To this day, ICQ is the simplest, lightest, and fastest means of communication with minimal resource consumption!
By the way, THIS is VERY IMPORTANT, because many people who are not gamers but only use a laptop for work, transfers, have weak laptops - which give them everything they need specifically for work.

Message from Lider1:
. And my client is not shitty, the protocol is shitty! And as for the convenience of QIP, that's convenient for you; I have a different opinion, and you don't even understand that ICQ passwords were transmitted in plain text and that there are thousands of cases of ICQ hacking! But of course you'll say it can be recovered, but who the fuck needs it! They made a password limit of 7 characters and ICQ was constantly fucked with, or hurray fucking they fucked with it and sent a trojan to all contacts, everyone logged in out of habit because they saw a link from a trusted contact, and bam you have a trainload of grateful friends, constantly sending some fucking spam through this ICQ, and in general, fuck it, I'm done proving this to a noob if you don't even understand how it works! And Jabber and GTalk are the same thing, GTalk is just a client for Jabber, there are Jabber servers monitored by Google, meaning they set up Jabber servers and simply made their own client, and QIP also made a Jabber server, so what do we get? where the fuck is 90 percent? lololo!

You still haven't grasped the essence of what should have been said from the beginning. The fact is that the majority of people who play in those tournaments organized on HeroesWorld have ICQ, moreover, I am confident in assuming that there are many more people on ICQ with whom one can communicate, and it is much more convenient than on Skype. I mean communicating with 5-7 people at once. So why the hell should we be forced into Skype if ICQ suits the majority of people?

It's time to stop meddling in people's interests. Use what you like and don't stop others from doing the same. As for your point that ICQ is mandatory and forced - that's your IMHO; those who have Skype are fewer, so the compulsion is "Skype-ing" on your part! For those who have ICQ, it is not a compulsion, and those are the majority!