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Message from Wicc:
Well, state your specific proposals. How to unite, what concessions, etc. Right now, it's just empty rhetoric.

For example, I don't see any willingness among the SOD players to make any concessions. It's either SOD or forget it.

And most importantly, there's no unifying idea, what should the result be? Beer-loving Heroes players are not very compatible with athletes.

If you keep shouting from your own perspective that SOD is bad, and VT is the best, then no one from SOD will even talk to you, because it's just discrimination against people's priorities, like you're all losers if you like SOD, all you want to do is drink beer and not compete in the arena. The conversation immediately turns into pointless bickering.
Now, let's get to the point:

I even sent you a link in ICQ and gave an answer in my thread, but you seem to be looking down on me, which means having a meaningful discussion is a waste of time (especially with you).
Maybe you'll come down from the heavens to earth, Mr. Wicc?

The willingness to compromise will always be there if both sides start by extending a hand to each other without sarcasm, discussing various topics together, and not drowning out ideas with verbal abuse. You yourself are not ready yet, because you have probably done a lot for VT and don't want to admit that it also has obvious drawbacks.

P.S. Wicc, neither you nor I should be discussing this. This issue needs to be carefully prepared, and each point of VT needs to be dissected with a large number of SOD players. There will be points that SOD cannot accept, and there will be points that are drawbacks in VT itself, and this is what needs to be discussed through negotiations, not by shouting "what the hell are you doing?".

It would be good to create a separate thread to discuss each point, and that's it.

Message from Qwerty:
It seems that the concept of "spectacularity" is somehow related to the audience (or to the participants, judges, inventors, organizers)?
So, I'm speaking from the perspective of the audience.
SOD is more interesting to watch than VT. Much more. Personally, for me.
PS. There is also statistics on the number of views... Maybe we can look at the 20 best SOD broadcasts and the same number of VT broadcasts? Which one has a larger total audience - that's the more spectacular one?

That's right, I'll say it again, spectacularity is the engine of popularity. Understand me, I may not be a well-known Heroes player, and some of my knowledge of the game's details is an order of magnitude lower than that of recognized masters, and not only that, but I have certain ideas about organization and popularity, about promoting various projects. Life has turned out such that I have constantly been in a sports environment (football, hockey, volleyball), I grew up, and my workplace is also in a sports complex, so I have often found myself among quite well-known businessmen, and I often see what people focus on in order to promote something or other, I won't say specifically, you understand (things are not insignificant, world and European championships in various sports, meetings, fights, and various kinds of events).

I will say one thing for sure, what people say does not affect anything, and the second and third things are not really true. There are always dozens of small details that constantly get in the way. There are absolutely no small details anywhere.

Message from PHOMM:
I want to tell you - if you don't have the opportunity to contribute to development, i.e., you just want to chat, but you won't do anything with your hands, then you should accept what is happening around you from the perspective of a consumer, and if you want to influence the result, put in the effort, and then you can discuss how to develop this and that.

Hmm, another Mr. Great. Isn't organization, advertising, contracts, compiling a season cycle, a system of calculation, finding creative ideas for sponsorship work? Without this, you can make 40 games in one go...
So, here's the flag for you, if you think that there is nothing else besides programming.

Message from Dirty Player:
If you think so, then rtfm.
Morality is only absent in neutrals, but it exists in Heroes.

Cool:D. You thought I had a special version of VT and I don't know about the options?


P.S. Be well-intentioned

Added 19 minutes ago

I also want to add that most VT players like SOD, while SOD players don't really like VT. There are those who like both versions. Sports competitions are not always about perfect balance, I will say it again, balance is also achieved through chaos. The game itself is not a game that should strive for symmetry, it would be better to develop it by adding advantages for weak castles, and not by removing these advantages from strong castles. There is a game and there are its rules, according to the rules of this game, there is morality, there is everything, and it will not become unsportsmanlike because of this! Sport is a competition according to established rules, according to any rules. And the more diverse the rules, the more options for development, the more unexpected the outcome can be, the more spectacular and lively it will be. This is what the game needs, not an identical balance.