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Apparently, everyone in Krasnodar was on vacation, so they could take their time drafting the schedule. But we are taking days off for 1-2 days now, meaning it's a just-in-time system: collective arrival on the morning of the 1st, an intensive program, and collective departure on the evening of the 4th. Here, you can't drag things out by a day, or even half an hour past the limit. This requires much greater meticulousness in organizational matters and scheduling. If the train is at 6:00, then the result of the last round must be ready by 5:30 at the latest, money handed over on the fly, and the person thrown onto the train.
2 Wicc.
We need to start on Saturday, April 30 - Round 1.
May 1 (Sunday) - Round 2,
May 2 (Monday - a day off due to the May 1 shift) - Round 3.
These are official holidays. Surely some players and spectators will leave on Monday evening precisely because they work. They'll hang out for three days, socialize. In St. Petersburg and Krasnodar, I couldn't afford more than 3-4 days because of work.
For contenders and advanced fans - May 3 and 4 - the finish of Round 4 and, if necessary, Round 5.
You brought up the example of the Michurinsk qualifier. Let me remind you how it happened: Stinger skipped Round 1, barely finished the last round with a taxi already waiting outside; he didn't lose a single game throughout the tournament, yet he took 3rd place. If the CIS Championship is such a shambles, I fear this will be the last such championship.
If you remember, Stinger was persuaded to come with great difficulty; initially, they were same-agreed to accept him just to socialize. He planned to play in Moscow and qualify there, using the tournament in Michurinsk as a warm-up. But class is permanent—even in "leisure mode," he qualified without any problems.
The fact that you call my tournaments a shambles greatly upsets me; I don't deserve this. I have no desire to open reports about your tournaments, look through them, and write whether it was a shambles there or not.
Name some ideal tournaments for me—those that are much better than mine, those that aren't "shambolic" by your definition.
So don't puff out your chest, saying "I'm such an experienced organizer, therefore my opinion is the most correct and everyone else can go to hell." You organized other tournaments, with a different roster and different requirements. The CIS Championship differs from them quite substantially.
What other tournaments did I organize? What other roster? Let's count. Lekha, Mizrael, Scorp, PreDS, Vitalik, Yama-Dharma, Dust, Dirty, Horn, Vic, Napalm were my guests and played in my tournaments.
That's 11 people. Bayazet, AlexGreat, Merlin, Term haven't visited me, but the way they support me certainly gives me strength—even just to avoid disappointing the players—to run everything properly. I don't know Poritsatel's opinion, but if a person is ready to come, then he likely supports it.
In other words, most either played in my tournaments or agree with the proposed program for the final.
Hello everyone!
I'll come (about 90-95% chance), but I'll give my quota to Poritsatel or whoever is next in line from our qualifier, because although I've played some randoms lately, it only convinced me that I'm not competitive in them. I'll help the organizers and judges however I can.
As for the topic raised, imho, the accommodation issue is secondary. Deadlines—yes, they are important, but with a normal approach to the matter, they can be met in any scenario. Who's stopping us from taking the save of a prolonged game from the club and finishing it on laptops in the hotel? Of course, it's more convenient to play there as well, but who can guarantee there won't be any glitches? This question also needs to be "ventilated" in advance + count laptops and cables so there are enough for everyone. If we play in a club, it's better to live in the city, preferably close to the club, to minimize travel time. Given the size of the city, it will likely be no more than 15 minutes. Losses from participants' irritability are usually an order of magnitude greater.
2 Horn.
Sasha, thanks for coming; long time no see. There will be material about "the two" in the neighboring forum for "the two," there is a thread there as well. In principle, if you play "the two," one spot is still free—could you ask Mike or Kral? Although Kral is also a fixed player, Mike is one of the best random players in the country.
And about the sanatorium. Yes, we'll arrange a bus that takes us to the club in the city in the morning and picks us up back in the evening. That's for sure; I know entrepreneurs who deal with bus transportation.
Vova, go to the garden yourself. Essentially, three organizers held a showdown, and it's unclear why you stuck your two cents in here—you measure everyone by yourself and draw corresponding conclusions, while simultaneously being outraged that you weren't asked about something. Logic: 5 points.
2 Piterius.
If the tournament fails, you won't be to blame, and neither will Vic. But I will be the one at fault for a reason.
In my understanding, reality is much simpler than what Eric and the guys supporting him are painting here. In his place, I would have done everything differently. Vic also suggests doing it differently. Yes, in this case, I'm judging by myself, but at the same time, I don't consider myself a role model. There are organizers heads and shoulders above me, so everything we're discussing is just trifles. And since the matter was resolved in such a crooked way, then apparently that's how the stars aligned, but just don't try to sell me this "reality isn't rubber" stuff.
Think what you want. I run it as best as I can. If there were such doubts about my abilities, they should have been trumpeted immediately.
What happens is, if the tournament had been on the 6-9th—would I have suddenly become "good"?
Let's say 12 people come to the final; is that significantly more than at the qualifier in Dnepr? No. For CIS scales, even 16 isn't serious. Whoever can will come. In that case, I see no point in qualifiers. Everyone already knows roughly what level each person plays at. This farce about the "eliteness" of the tournament is no longer needed by anyone now, and even less so next year. If someone doesn't have the possibility to run a qualifier, then quotas should be given anyway to those who deserve them in the opinion of the majority of the finalists themselves.
I think we'll get 20 people. I really wanted to see Dirty. Cobra and Mee haven't written a refusal. No news from Napalm yet.
And if there are no players from Ukraine, that would be wrong.
Regarding Minsk, I have mixed feelings. On one hand, I'd name players like Paladin, DSVasya, Skunks... but on the other, where are they all?
It's been a long time since they've been heard of in Heroes; in poker, yes, they are. But we have active players playing... otherwise, what kind of tournament is it without Antal, Uncle Fyodor, Chaos, Dilvish? Legends who haven't played for four years already?
As for Stinger—that's a sore point. I also believe that it's not a championship without Tema.
I knew about this back in late January when Eric was arranging the club; I wrote about the possible need for a vote on dates, to which Eric replied that the club Management would likely be against May 6-9, but only now has the opposite come to light. It's a pity; if this info had been available earlier, I would have postponed the qualifier (at least because I went to games with a cut foot, which, by the way, still hasn't healed) or not held it at all, since as it turns out, few of us are ready to go on those dates.
For the reason that I won't be going myself, accordingly, I'm not campaigning for anyone. This is already a question for Eric and the possibility for all other participants.
I'm sorry you got injured. Perhaps I really should have started working even earlier so you could find out everything sooner. Although I thought I had a buffer. Sorry.
6000r - Flight Ekb-Msk round trip
600r - Aeroexpress round trip
1400r - Train ticket Msk-Michurinsk round trip
5500r - 5 days accommodation in a hotel
800r - Club for 4 days
3000r - Food/drink, without alcohol
1000r - Other overhead expenses
Total minimum estimate comes to 18300r! With base accommodation: 14500r!
2 Mee.
It seems we decided that we're staying in the sanatorium. Payment for 4 days, because on the last day, the fifth—we check out in the morning. Total 2000 rub, not 5500.
Food and other expenses depend on you. One can be full on 200 rubles a day here. I would do it this way—the club is large, I'd set up several tables. On them—groceries, sliced cheese from packages, sausage, cookies, meat, candies. Several thermoses with tea and coffee, lemonade. Possibly beer. Plastic cups and plates. Any player comes as needed, takes sandwiches, and snacks at the table.
Maybe the monetary aspect doesn't have the greatest importance personally for me, but I'm not planning to go alone. That is, the base costs less and in addition to everything, the base is much more convenient for conducting [the event] and combining it with relaxation, especially since a taxi is 50r—well, let's say from the base to the city is 150r, still pennies. And I have no desire to sit in a club for 4 days; I don't necessarily need to travel across half the country for that.
In the city, although it is small, there are all the entertainments found in any other Russian city. But in the sanatorium, 18 km from the city—there aren't. In poker, yes, it's convenient: you play at night, sleep all day, pop out to the cafeteria—and back to bed for night poker. But there's nowhere to walk or have fun.
In my time in government service, I wore out many of these sanatoriums. What infuriated me was the own-willfulness of the staff. Even if we gathered to play, some cleaning ladies would surely enter the conference hall and kick us out because it's time to mop the floor. Or a city doctor would be giving a lecture to medical staff, and they'd happily chase us away.
And they don't give a damn about our opinion.
If you think that a sanatorium is the same as a small recreation base in Minsk, which would pray to players as their only clients, then unfortunately it is not. We don't have such small cottages.
Therefore, so that we are masters of the situation—accommodation in the sanatorium plus playing in the club—is the only option.
And overall, ideally, we would need the return of Alan Prost. Heroes were lucky to have such a world-class guy who ran tournaments. He managed to unite the entire same-heroic world back then. There are no others like him.