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Gentlemen Morning and Vayshan! I still haven't figured out how your discussion about the movie "Inception" ended (although, as I understand it, the true meaning of the title is more likely "Implantation"). If you are interested, I suggest we make a joint effort to finally resolve the remaining disputed points. Specifically, the following remains unclear to me: did the characters on the first dream level really manage all their work in a few hours rather than a week? It's unclear why they needed those 10 hours of sleep = that week in the dream (guess #1 - because of the preparedness of Fisher's subconscious thugs, they had to sharply reduce the time to execute the plan; it's quite possible they intended to spend several days on the first level preparing Fisher (torturing him longer or something else) so that he would have no doubts about the reality of what was happening, and only go to the other levels on the last day).Well, the entire plan on the first level consisted only of kidnapping Fisher and connecting him to the shared dream; I think they would have had to spend a week on the first level if there hadn't been a kick.

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2. regarding waking up at the end of the flight: either we simply weren't shown how they spent the rest of the week on the first level hiding from Fisher's army (by the way, Fisher himself was supposed to think it was reality and lose faith in everything that happened upon waking up in the plane, provided he remembered anything at all, and such a vivid dream should be remembered), or as morning correctly noted, they spent the rest of the time without dreams, which shouldn't happen due to the special sedative administered specifically to see the shared dream for 10 hours.

Perhaps it wasn't shown, and they hung out on that level for a week and then simply woke up in the plane (which is exactly why ten hours were needed - this seems to be the duration of the sedative)

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3. After the van fell into the water, dear Vayshan, the participants should have ended up specifically on the first level rather than waking up completely (note that a person wakes up completely when they fall off a chair in the real world (experiments during training), i.e., the kick sends you to the level where the fall occurred from a deeper level) but they woke up completely, apparently, because the sedative wore off (very specific, since Fisher only sipped the glass he was given and therefore the concentration in his body was significantly lower than that of the heroes who drank it all + individual physiological characteristics are not taken into account)

Hm, indeed, so everything is correct.

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4. you cannot exit limbo via a kick - otherwise the hero and the old man wouldn't have had to do anything - the explosion of the building would have been a kick for them. It's not clear why this explosion is even necessary!?

I've re-watched this part of the movie several times - I couldn't understand why this explosion is needed; maybe due to the dubbing, the meaning of the explanatory phrases was slightly altered.

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5. The hero claims that by the time they left limbo, where he had been with his wife, they had grown old together in it. But they lie on the tracks as young people! A paradox!

More likely a conscious movie blooper for dramatic effect. It wouldn't be as dramatic if the train crushed some frail old people.

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6. as soon as the train runs them over, they wake up immediately in the real world (this is clearly shown). But when Fisher and the girl architect die in limbo during the mission, falling from a balcony - they wake up on the previous level. Why? Or is everything happening just Cobb's 3rd dream level, and his wife, jumping out the window, moved to the 2nd?.. unlikely

In my opinion, the movie didn't show that they woke up in reality immediately after being run over by the train. Perhaps they lay under the train in limbo, then jumped from a skyscraper on the third level, then shot themselves on the second, and then woke up on their own.

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7. Cobb stays in limbo to find Saito. How and why does he end up in the ocean when he is pulled out by old man Saito's guards?? The ocean is the entrance to limbo, but he was already in it. Furthermore, after shooting themselves they should, like Fisher and the girl architect, end up on the previous level, but that one is already destroyed... Moreover, Saito is dead on the previous level and isn't revived with a defibrillator. Does that mean they wake up immediately like he once did with his wife?

The fact that he ends up in the ocean again is likely just an effective directorial move; he can't exactly run around limbo on foot searching for Saito, who could be anywhere. After the suicide, they transferred to the first level because the others simply no longer existed.

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8. why does the Asian guy mine the elevator when in zero gravity he could just push this group of people by hand somewhere in a corridor with an acceleration = free fall acceleration?

Probably the kick is a sudden movement of the body downward under the influence of gravity and with free fall acceleration. And that's a very large value; he wouldn't have enough strength to push them like that, and besides, there would be no acceleration in zero gravity—the bodies would simply be given an impulse and the speed would be constant since there is no acceleration.

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9. when the van flips during the chase, the Asian guy in the hotel is thrown against the walls, although instead he should just wake up in the van because the flip and fall of the van is a real kick (moreover, the driver is warned: drive carefully, everything is extremely unstable on the 2nd level... amazing care and striking stability) => those sleeping in the hotel are also thrown => these are real kicks for them.

It seems that this fall was not enough for a kick; essentially, the bodies were just spinning rather than falling. I think the kick is not the fall of the van itself, but the moment it hits the water, because relative to the "van" reference system, the bodies are absolutely stationary during the fall, and from the strong impact on the water, there is a sufficiently strong movement in the direction of the fall (as in the elevator on the second level)

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Why don't they wake up in the hotel, and then in the van? (by the way, with this view, the need to blow up the elevator disappears entirely, since the feeling of falling should pass through all levels. essentially, zero gravity is the feeling of falling, and they should wake up in the hotel as soon as the van starts falling from the bridge, and then in the van itself. and the Asian guy especially should have woken up as soon as the van started to fall, before he could blow up the elevator, since he was on the second level)

No, zero gravity is not a feeling of falling but simply a feeling of absence of gravity. To understand that you are specifically falling, you need to be falling relative to the reference system you are in. Roughly speaking, a person falling from a roof falls because they see themselves moving down relative to the house. A person placed in a diving plane will not experience a feeling of falling because relative to the plane, they aren't moving anywhere (I saw it on TV, zero gravity can be simulated in large transport planes flying in a parabola)

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10. a person wakes up, as clearly seen in the experiments with the Asian guy on the chair, at the moment falling begins, not when they've already hit the floor. => why do the heroes wake up in the elevator when it hits the bottom of the shaft, and they hit the roof of the elevator, rather than when the elevator moves with acceleration from the explosion?

The bodies themselves are stationary; at the moment the charges explode, the elevator itself moves, but at the moment the elevator hits the floor of the shaft, the bodies themselves move.

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Perhaps that's enough for the first time. My apologies if the topic is old and well-worn, but there is still hope that all misunderstood things will be clarified in favor of the movie and it will turn out to be even cooler than it seems after watching ))) Respectfully.

Nolan wanted to make this movie for ten years; I think over those ten years he certainly thought through the script carefully. It's possible that the things we don't understand have an explanation, it just doesn't occur to us)

Армия баранов под предводительством льва сильнее армии львов под предводительством барана.

God save us everyone
Will we burn inside the fires of a thousand suns...

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