There's no need to look for a black cat in a dark room, especially when it's not there ;)
It's not worth looking for allies of your "enemy" - anyone who is an associate of them.
P.S. I was just caught by the phrase "/more than possible (with or without)/". I didn't care who would win, but now tell me who won the bet (???) if there was one, and if it was recorded /50 goats or a victory in a game or something else/. After each game, everyone tries to take credit (a little), and claims they proved something to someone... that's right :smile53: